Sombra doesn’t need a damage buff. Your aim does

Sombra does the same damage as Bastion recon mode and only 11 less than 76.

The difference between these 3 though is Sombra can literally take away the abilities of her enemy making them less evasive.

I don’t see how you can say she does trash damage. At all.

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What.
You know Bastion’s Sentry Mode deals some of the highest non-ultimate DPS in the game right?

Oh and 1 more post and you’ll have 666 posts.

I agree that she doesnt need a damage buff but your comparison fails. Have you checked spread and fall off range of these heroes?

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Only 11! Which means less than 10 damage per bullet, which means she’s affected by armor!

It also means that you need… what, twice the amount of bullets to kill someone, WITH all that spread?

You’re silly.

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Maybe if Sombra sits with her gun pressed into roadhogs stomach and roadhog doesnt move.

In any practical scenario though, their damage isnt even somewhat comparable.

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You kinda got fact checked. I don’t think she needs a dps buff either but I also think your comparison doesn’t actually…work. At all

I meant recon lol my bad

Actually, you can’t talk about aim when there’s spread involved. But, as with many other FPS heroes, it’s “the brake”, so that experienced FPS players wouldn’t utterly destroy those new to the genre …

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you don’t exactly need to worry about damage falloff if you can become invisible and walk up to people without them noticing at all…

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What you said doesn’t mean she needs a dps buff.

Aim better and you’ll do better. You got 60 bullets and an ability that takes away the opponents abilities for 6 seconds. If you can’t kill them idk what to tell you

Umm, she yells when she decloaks. I don’t thibk she needs a damage buff either necessarily but switching to tracer is way more effective, so something should be done.

The difference is that Soldier not only has 11 more DPS, but he has a 120 dmg burst ability. Bastion has his 160 DPS Recon mode that no one ever uses because he also has a 450 DPS Sentry Mode.

Sombra has NO FORM of alternate damage, so her damage is, of course, weaker, and it requires more skill to deal consistent damage.

Regardless, I still believe she needs buffs unrelated to her maximum damage output. Putting her spread at 2.5 degrees would be a welcome change though.

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Aim better and I’ll do better with literally every hero. That doesn’t mean Sombra is okay.

Plus, Sombra can aim better and she’s still only okay. To quote a good quote from a different thread:

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and? she can be anywhere she wants when she decloaks now. not to mention she rocks a 60 round mag and a relatively small hit box, not including her amazing escape and the surprise hack usually puts any one person on their back foot.

She does not need a Dmg buff.
But She needs other buffs thats for sure

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You are arguing a completely different thing here. Just because Sombra doesnt need a weapon like Soldier and recon Bastion doesnt mean its comparable. OP thinks her weapons is just as lethal.

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Hack plus her gun is lethal. At close range it’s lethal.

Is it just as lethal as Soldiers and Bastions gun? No its not.

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provided she hits her shots and isn’t playing sniper hackmaster she can out dps soldier and scout bastion… I didn’t even factor in her much higher rate of fire…

Aim scales with all of these heroes. Provided they hit their shots, they will always outdamage a Sombra.

At average realized damage a match this week.
Sombra: 8.5k
Soldier: 14.2k

I cant use Bastions data because its stacked with his turret form damage.

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