So the rein soft nerfs are they getting fixed?

[Somvra-1200]

He is getting there, and I do agree. I like what they did with Ana. She still has her weakness, but her strength has got stronger for compromise.

[TheMaelstrom-11479]

theres no way this is a bug. This has to be intentional, if its a bug its the most severe bug ive ever seen in a game besides a bug in another game that causes the game to crash when an ability is used, because the only way ive seen animation cancels be removed is directly by the devs, not by bugs

[GreyFalcon-11737]

@GreyFalcon-11737

@Somvra-1200

Ana: We don’t want to add mobility, because it removes one of her weakness, we want enemies to exploit that weakness.

Months Later…

Hanzo: His rework literally removed all his known weakness.

I still think they did the right thing for Ana.

And Hanzo still confuses me, but at least he’s less overpowered than he used to be.

That said, I actually like the Hanzo mobility. It allows him to maintain distance while being a medium range hero.

What I don’t like is that he can storm arrow down tanks as fast as a Reaper shotgun.

[Natorian-1907]

As far as the animation cancels go I don’t think Blizzard will be reverting them.

Realistically what happened, even though Blizzard said nothing, Jessika, is that Reinhardt has a slight delay when deploying and releasing his shield. The delay is short, but not ultimately game breaking. His most important animation cancel, Hammer Swing > Fire Strike > Hammer Swing, still works. Shield jumping seems to have ironed itself out after the patch preceding the Shatter code rework.

One thing you have to look at though is what Reinhardt would respond like if Blizzard made his shield deploy and retract instantly, with the Shatter fix, and a reliable Charge. Even without a Hammer Swing revert to its original state Reinhardt would be doing a considerable amount of damage with little counter play to his defense. The rework of a defending Reinhardt against Shatter also made it so the defending Reinhardt has the advantage. By raising your shield before the “tremor” animation has completed you negate the Shatter completely, which realistically needed to happen.

It sucks that Reinhardt had some of his animation cancels removed, but in the long run I would take the current iteration of Reinhardt over any that has been in the game so far.

[TheMaelstrom-11479]

frankly at this point i dont think its worth responding to anything jess has to say. Shes a gold player who thinks rein is op just because hes picked a lot. Its like hes a main tank thats being heavily enabled by a meta and the only main tank with a moving shield. What a surprise that hes used the most

[Somvra-1200]

I think giving him mobility was a huge mistake. I stand firm to that decision, as before the rework, he was weak in CQB and he had lack of Mobility.

This re-work, literally removed both of those. Not to mention that people forgot that he got a buff to his drawback speed, making him able to charge faster.

[anon45124512]

Because he’s still broken, and arguably even worse to play. Why is “He gets picked often” an argument for not fixing what’s broken?

[LCC-11142]

“Oh lets take away animation cancels”
“oops we introduced bugs, eh, let’s leave it there for a while”

[LCC-11142]

hanzNO

[Natorian-1907]

Who is Hanzo?

“I slay Dragons” -Reinhardt-

I barely know he exists in my games.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

@Somvra-1200

I think giving him mobility was a huge mistake. I stand firm to that decision, as before the rework, he was weak in CQB and he had lack of Mobility.

This re-work, literally removed both of those. Not to mention that people forgot that he got a buff to his drawback speed, making him able to charge faster.

Well, I’ll agree at least that having mobility AND tank busting is a problem.

But having mobility NOT tank busting would be fine.

[TheMaelstrom-11479]

youre arguing with a gold synaptic. Just be aware of that. This person has literally made a thread that reins op.

Rein is now a bigger problem hero than Mercy

[image] This is why I’ve severely cut down my play and not really planning on making a quick return once I’m done with WoW. He’s been like this for what seems like forever, twice, the only thing that ever impacted him was Winston’s buff to his shield. I don’t care that he’s so buggy he’s allegedly unplayable, IMAGINE WHAT THE HELL HE’D BE LIKE IF HE WASN’T. Other tanks need work, properly, same as the Supports got it, and it was needed 6 months ago. Edit: To those who say nerf the rest of…

Very Funny Old spanish man laughing hard flv

[damnitbinks-1559]

But the downside to rein swinging his hammer is he and his team are no vulnerable to damage. It doesn’t matter how fast you can put your shield up. If you’re not using it you’re gonna die just the same.

[Somvra-1200]

@LCC-11142

hanzNO

@Natorian-1907

Who is Hanzo?

“I slay Dragons” -Reinhardt-

I barely know he exists in my games.

Lol the shade toward Hanzo is real lol.

[Somvra-1200]

Yeah, I just honestly feel like he should have been granted that mobility ability.

[TheMaelstrom-11479]

i wish there was shade on hanzo again, he put shade over tracer just when people were realizing she was op, so annoying.

[Skrimiche-1896]

Meta or not, heroes should feel fluid.

[anon70538373]

Did the devs say anything about it in the patch notes? If not you could open up a support ticket to ask them about the changes or even report it as a bug to see what they have to say about it

[Afterstar-1658]

@anon70538373

Did the devs say anything about it in the patch notes? If not you could open up a support ticket to ask them about the changes or even report it as a bug to see what they have to say about it

We have been reporting this both in general discussion and bug forums for months since 1.26 about the animation cancels and now they added an additional slower animation for the shield going out, so I doubt it will do anything again.

[Natorian-1907]

@Afterstar-1658

and now they added an additional slower animation for the shield going out

I haven’t logged in since the small update yesterday. Was this something that happened after that update?

Edit: I will go play a few games now to see.