Should Challenges be doable by everyone?

Just as a joke I checked LFG there were NO people doing challenges.

So I guess its SR hell as matchmaking puts me with absolute morons until I get lucky enough to carry 3 people through expert junkenstein.

If the reward was a skin, then yes. Otherwise I don’t care either way. I won’t be playing them.

I’m by no means suggesting that a person’s PvE and PvP skill level will always be the same. But I think it’s a very fair assumption that the average 3200SR player will almost certainly naturally do a lot better than an average 1800SR player. While there are most certainly a different set of skills involved in PvP and PvE, there is still a lot of overlap within the same game, and even in other games, high ranking players tend to be higher ranked in those games as well because they tend to be better at video games in general.

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It sounds more like you’re having some odd issues with matchmaking than having actual issues with the challenge. The first time I tried Vengeful Ghost I was teamed up with a Genji who kept trying to kill it; you can guess how that panned out.

So I guess the only advice I can give is to leave it a while and try again later. Maybe there’s a glut of people trying to play it, and when it dies down you’ll have a better chance of teaming up with better folks.

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I can normally knock out the week challenge in one day. However I’ve had some VERY bad losing streaks and some have taken almost the full week. But I would say definitely doable

Today literally everyone I matchmaked within the speedy bots challenge WOULD NOT KILL THE DANG ROBOTS AND TIRES THAT WERE HURTING THE DOOR and I ended up losing all those games because the door would break. I really think that you have to be really lucky and get good teammates who work well together in order to “win” the challenges. So now I gotta wait to duo with someone so we can actually beat the challenge.

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Dont know, sounds like its purposely matching me with similar SR, which last I checked was 0.

because you shouldn’t, what is with people nowadays wanting freebies from everywhere? try a little, it’s fun, and if you don’t have fun PLAYING the game, then stop

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How about they fix the glaring issues.

I must be super unlucky because the fast moving bots roll my teams over and over.

I’m up to 30+ games. They simply leave now, as soon as it starts to turn south… because they can’t be bothered to actually try or stick around.

Thanks Blizzard, for the most frustrating time I’ve ever had in this game. And I main MH, so that should tell you something.

Y… yes. They should. Because it isn’t ranked, and it’s casual play. You shouldn’t lock PvE content out by making them absurdly difficult. Expert is a challenge in and of itself, and if people want to do legendary they can play the legendary gamemode instead of the expert-level challenges.

It’s against AI- a group of bronze players will most likely get it, eventually. It’s unfair and stupid to say “these challenges should ONLY be for people in [rank] or above” or “bronze players shouldnt have a chance at them”.

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It’s in the name, if you want something easy — play classic on lowest difficulty. TBH it’s like asking them to remove/nerf legendary difficulty because it’s too hard (it’s actually not, and neither are challenges)
Get a friend for a duo, pick a carry character, git gud. Part of being good at the game is being able to identify good dedicated players who share a goal with you. And LFG is only useful if you, y’know, actually start looking for group. I check LFG between matches to see if anyone’s looking for help with PVEs, and I’m sure there are others like me who can help you out.
Low level teammates are a problem only if you’re not good. Last Anniversary I queued legendary Uprising on my second account (very fresh one, it was like, lvl 2 or something), and in about three games I went from matching with 10-20 something lvls to matching with 100-300 lvls and finally to silver-gold-plat frames. The game figured out my actual lvl in like 3 games, which is IMO impressive.
A few hours ago I queued with my PVE partner and 2 friends with whom I never played Junkenstein before, and we’ve done both challenges in a single attempt. We barely coordinated. The only person who died was me, because my monitor sneezed in the middle of the match and I had to go afk to fix it.
Lil’ tip: Cree charges his ult real quick if you click on heads, so you can wipe anything and everything if you play your cards right. Good luck.

Can concur.

If the challenges didn’t have some level of difficulty, they wouldn’t be challenges.

If the challenges were reduced to cake-walks so everyone could do them (like the title says) they wouldn’t be challenges, they’d be weekly grinds.

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The challenges are not the easiest, but they should not be, otherwise they wouldn’t be challenges.
Yes, it can happen that you are paired with people barely able to play the game, but there are still some strategies to help the win.
McCree is usually very powerful against bosses with his ult (especially if Ana powers him up).
Torb’s ult can basically kill Junkenstein alone (throwing the lava all over the ledge). Also I used Torb to aggro the specter. With Overload he can resist more (and escape easier) and the turret is still doing kills. Beware that the turret takes damage from the ghost.
A decent Hanzo can headshot many robots lessening the burden on the team (especially the Zombardiers). Also Storm arrow and headshot Reaper when he teleports (removing a good chunk of life). His ult can remove Junkenstein/clear bridges and bypasses Sym’s shield.
Zen is difficult to use against the ghost, since you need multiple target fast healing many times. His discord is can be used on the tires and bosses to ease the burden.
Ana is useful for her nano, ranged healing and dealing with Reaper/Road/Mercy healing with 'nade.
I don’t know if it is a bug but someone in my Team (Brig or McCree) could stun the ghost.
Usually a McCree and a Torb on the team can help a lot.
It would also help to know which challege you have more trouble with, and what is usually the reason you all die (broken door, all heroes killed)

I can’t tell people what to pick. I have to hope I get a good team.

LFG either has comp team only groups or chill skirmish groups. No one was doing challenges on PS4 yesterday.

After around 30 Ghost challenge I finished it and got the lootbox. I will never play that mode again, ever.

The fast bot challenge felt like just a normal match and it gave me a decent team on the first try.

I don’t know if its too hard. But I feel like a lot of people wont be able to do it, ever.

You make it sound like you exactly want to do this :eyes:

No, that’s what half the people are implying.

That they can pick Torbs and McCree and take 3 people who’ve never played this game through it and one shot everything and never worry about dying and do funny poses.

Except that might be true on PC, but on console its matching people horribly, and as Torbs I’m averaging 200+ kills a game.

Did both all randos (as ana)

For the ghost, double healer is a good idea. Although, you are on console so I assume very few are picking ana? She’s very helpful. We had mccree, ana, torb, brig. Nano mccree mainly.

On the fast mode, torb, ana, mccree, ashe. Torb goes full door check the entire time. Nano mccree. Bob helps out with the turret for more dps.

Torb usually gets the most kills with his turret. Especially when everyone is focussing elites and not zombots.

Of course, it’s not easy but maybe they should tell people that the mode is set to expert rather than only showing that on the right click menu. It might deter people who aren’t yet good at the mode

I have no plans on playing it again. Either fix the matchmaking or fix the difficullty. Giving me tips on how to play it kinda misses the point that I had to try and carry my team through 30 of those matches before I found one willing to play it seriously.