Current Soldier on beta is more broken than them.
Beyblade Reaper
Triple tank Soldier
Widow Dive (Reason we got goats)
Double Sniper after goats
Oh, also Beta Soldier is more powerful than anything ever.
KEKW. I’ll admit Soldier is strong on beta but Goats Brig LITERALLY killed the game and people on beta aren’t saying Soldier is killing the game
Because of Ana
Because of Ana
Widow played to counter Rez
This isn’t even a single hero
Zen can still 2 tap a Tracer + he has discord
Huh, here’s an idea.
If Supports damage an enemy player, they get a 20% speed boost.
Soldier is literally in every match on both teams. Yeah, he is killing the game on current beta.
Doesn’t matter, Reaper was good.
So you are trying to deny it was a thing now.
I could just say Hanzo or Widow. No single hero on ladder currently is as OP are you are trying to say they are. Next. 
Ana did it without discord or needed to charge shots, or hit head shots. Your lack of knowledge is showing.
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That’s mega broken + their heal passive.
Imagine Brig with armour already + her shield + the support passive + inspire + the bash that has double the distance and now this
If the Support is shooting a DPS, there’s a very good chance they’ve received damage that disables their passive.
That said, they could also just make it so that if a Support deals damage, that it also disables their passive. (Except for Mercy)
Do you need to be reminded of Mercy during moth meta’s pickrate
Not as good as the most broken supports and again this was because of Ana
My post is the opposite of that it’s me saying why it was a thing
Widow has never been as strong as Moth Mercy or Goats Brig. Lmk when Widow is considering the most broken hero in gaming history and single handily makes so many streamers and players quit
Again Zen can still two tap and discord is just a bonus.
Zen’s potential damage is still way higher than that Ana and he’s more likely to reach that potential since he can dps all game unlike Ana
That’s much more fair.
I was about to say Brig might be goats level again
If they can get Healers in the right ballpark on this stuff, then it’s just a matter of really basic balancing of individual heroes.
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I don’t see a problem with this type of gameplay, as long as there is a real skill standard that allows it, the problem is the way it happens, you can make your team immortal in WOW and it requires a lot of support skill and raid knowledge, overwatch enables this with few skills, almost no resource management.
And to be clear, I’m not a thirsty DPS who wants to see everything melt at the push of a button, I’m actually a tank/main support.
I actually find DPS pretty boring.
The same as current Beta Soldier. Your bias is showing here if you can’t even admit to this.
Yes, as good as broken supports. Him and Ana just shared synergy as well.
Nah it isn’t.
Widow dive. Next.
Ana did it easier than him. Zen also has to headshot, and no you aren’t always headshotting as Zen bud.
Currently yes. We are comparing release Ana to current Zen. Release Ana didn’t have to constantly do damage. She just needed to shoot high priority targets twice. Anas healing, and utility is also harder to use than Zens. Discord and Harmony are as easy to use as Mercy beams.
Again beta soldier still isn’t as strong as Moth Mercy
Ana was played without reaper and reaper was not played without Ana
Didn’t make a ton of people quit like Brig
The point wasn’t who was easier it was just that they both could do it
You’re basically saying Zen is stronger
Are you sure? For me, it depends on the time of day. Most of the day, only one of tank or dps will be slow. Then, as the day goes on, both queues get longer.
Well the main issue with your argument is that it all relies on a very weak hypothesis : that the support Q times are a good indicator.
It’s not. The beta is only 3 weeks long, people in the beta will want to maximize the time they spend playing on the new stuff, and that means playing the reworked DPS and tanks.
Support are essentially the same as in OW1 so there is no incentive to play support. I would also bet that support mains are overall less likely to even get into the beta since it’s pretty clear that there is nothing new in it for them.
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Again, yes he is. He can literally solo team wipe.
Not during beyblade. Nice try though.
It made plenty of people quit.
That was your point, not mine.
Nope, Zen is easier. Ana has always been, and always be stronger in general gameplay.
Essentially the same as in “actually nerfed.” Yep, I could see why people would avoid it over the buffed roles with new content. Makes sense to me, Orion.
Yeah this is why we have flex players.
I have found support fine so far on Beta. Sure you get flanked more but I enjoy dueling flankers as support and maybe little crouch spam if they lose too.
I can’t imagine locking myself to a single role forever.
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New is more attractive. And new heroes are usually OP because devs didn’t have the chance to balance them properly.
It doesn’t mean that existing/unchanged heroes are nerfed in the long run and that people will stop playing them.
I mean is this entire argument hinged on the fact that you actually think they are not going to add competitive open role queue? Like on OW1 I NEVER ever play role queue… and if OW2 launches and the only mode is competitive ROLE queue I wouldn’t play it either.
Of course not, by nerfed, I mean they took heroes such as Ana and Baptiste, and literally nerfed them. Not a lot exciting going on with the support class, really.