Role queue KILLED the game

[Huevoasesino-11543]

Dps instalocking their heroes and refusing to switch lead to rolequeue, which means selfish dpd killed the game

[Huevoasesino-11543]

Play something other than dps 4 head

[Poytheon-1466]

@Hyphen-21921

You mean an issue that could be solved 100% with a tool that already existed?
Hardcore press X to doubt on that one chief.

Barely anyone used LFG. There’s a thing called solo queue & people do it intentionally.

@Hyphen-21921

Hmm ?

You’re talking about how queue times are currently and blaming role queue as if we haven’t had no new content added to the standard game in 2 years…obviously queue times aren’t going to be instant on a game waiting for a sequel. Not to mention the game requires 2 of each role while each role is nowhere near equally populated. Obviously queue times are not going to be instant for every role. What we need is OW2

@Ranulf-1999

Except that Orisa is always actively shooting so its not ‘‘hold your shield and do nothing else’’.

But in her old iteration once her shield was gone she was much weaker than she is now. Now she’s uncrittable during fortify.

@Ranulf-1999

Yes after a year and half of nerfs to tank survivability because of GOATS backlash.

&Goats was only possible because of open queue. Case & point, role queue was necessary. should have been implemented at launch.

@Ranulf-1999

You dont even play any of the tanks you are whining about. You play Hog Dva.

Lol what? I Play every tank… my highest SR tank is Orisa (Somewhere around 4100?) & I’m pretty sure Rein is my most played tank overall followed by Hog… don’t go based off what the forums tell you, 80% of my playtime is in competitive and the forums just show quickplay

@Ranulf-1999

They never did.

They certainly did. People don’t play Overwatch to shoot at blue walls most of the game.

@Ranulf-1999

You have flankers. You have shield busters. You have heroes who literally bypass or feed off them.

Oh wait only hitscans and snipers are allowed to be good. My bad. Cant have barriers that counter Widow/Ashe/Soldier/McCree, lets break the game’s foundations for the sake of hitscanwatch.

And yet with all of those things existing we still had double barrier meta for way too long, some say we’re still in it, & shooting big blue walls still isn’t fun.

[KevinAteNine-1753]

@Socrates-11282

Nothing actually backs this up, if anything the opposite is true especially with how big an issue queue times have come to be

I can see why someone would think this. But imo this is Blizzard’s fault for taking ages with balance updates and not making the tank role more appealing.

[Socrates-11282]

I play tank, but regardless of the role I play I can still see that queue times have been a big issue

@KevinAteNine-1753

But imo this is Blizzard’s fault for taking ages with balance updates and not making the tank role more appealing.

Which is kinda funny since people lauded 2-2-2 for being easier to balance and faster and yet here we are getting balance changes more infrequently than it rains in Africa

[Huevoasesino-11543]

It is easier to balance, but blizz went full ow 2 and abandonded this game to its own luck

[Socrates-11282]

In theory, it should be easier to balance, but even when OW2 development wasn’t on full throttle the game was in an atrocious state with Double Shield that lasted forever and a day

[Hyphen-21921]

@Ranulf-1999

So on one hand to claim the devs on your side and yet they implemented 2-2-2. So either the devs arent as trusthworthy with their words or they deemed 2-2-2 necessary.

Curious.

Strawman much?

Dude I said, that the claim about 5 DPS players happened all the time … why are you bringing 222 being implemented ? Also where did you get the “necessary” from? Are YOU going to back up anything now?

@Ranulf-1999

Ah yes, lower the quality of matches for the sake of queue times.
Good ol proven recipe for total success.

Lower the quality ? How ? Are you throwing random rebuttals just in case something sticks?

Dude read what Ive said. Im literally joining both queues under RQ, one with roles restricted (those who come from LFG) others with random assign or even first come first serve etc. You are complaining about a hypothetical that brings the best of both systems

Unbelievable.

@Ranulf-1999

You alternate between being outraged at the idea of people activelly wanting and choosing RQ but at the same time outraged at the idea of Blizzard ‘‘forcing’’ RQ.

Literally none of what you say makes sense at all, you claim contradicting things half the time.

Its amazing how you twist words on a level that you turn the black into white mate.
I am consistent about my hate about Forced 222 and wanting RQ to be only in LFG so we can join the queues.

You on the other hand are throwing random rebuttals to something Ive never said, while proving to not be able to distinguish that Forced 222 and RQ are 2 different things.

@Ranulf-1999

Find the quote. I am waiting.

Dont hold your breath if you expect me to do your research about a 2018 post for you.
If you dont want to believe it and conveniently forget that most matches did NOT have 5 DPS, live your dream

[DeleteRoleQ-2137]

One-tricks are a plague. But the devs are still at fault for:

• their inability to create a proper tutorial informing players how to play each role
• not encouraging hero flexing or rewarding the players who do
• not adding a constant stream of fun heroes to pad out the tank, dps, and support rosters
• not adding the “avoid as player” system until years later, that should impose longer queue times for players being heavily avoided.
• only giving us 3 avoid slots
• not developing a guilds and giving up on LFG
• making heroes with incredibly simple kits, hard counter heroes, and making the game progressively more teammate dependent

[Suff-1370]

The only thing they could do worse than role lock is individual character lock

[Ranulf-1999]

@Poytheon-1466

But in her old iteration once her shield was gone she was much weaker than she is now. Now she’s uncrittable during fortify.

Cool I rather have full power barrier that protects me and my team. Shocking I know, a hero meant to defend, defending??? The outrage.

You surely do understand that uncrittable Fort is a compensation buff for the utter dumpstering of her barrier right.

@Poytheon-1466

&Goats was only possible because of open queue. Case & point, role queue was necessary. should have been implemented at launch.

I am not defending open queue, and there is zero correlation between making real tanks ‘‘more fun’’ for DPS players and any success RQ has.

@Poytheon-1466

Lol what? I Play every tank… my highest SR tank is Orisa (Somewhere around 4100?) & I’m pretty sure Rein is my most played tank overall followed by Hog… don’t go based off what the forums tell you, 80% of my playtime is in competitive and the forums just show quickplay

Your profile is public you know.

@Poytheon-1466

And yet with all of those things existing we still had double barrier meta for way too long, some say we’re still in it, & shooting big blue walls still isn’t fun.

Because DS was literally a symptom comp. Even when its numbers were crap, it was still played because it offered the best protection against the hitscans that dominated then. It wasnt until they nerfed Ashe and Widow that the pressure for an anti-sniper meta eased down.

But also they hard nerfed Sym out of countering DS, same with Doomfist, and Mei. None of the heroes that counter DS were ever allowed to be strong or threaten the hitscans that forced both GOATS and DS meta.

[Huevoasesino-11543]

@Trilly-11672

At least the people picking tanks and supports in OQ were actually tank/support players who enjoyed and understood the roles.

Lets be honest, no one enjoys being solo tanking or solo healing and baby sitting a bunch of players whi cant paly anything else than dps

[KevinAteNine-1753]

@Socrates-11282

Which is kinda funny since people lauded 2-2-2 for being easier to balance and faster and yet here we are getting balance changes more infrequently than it rains in Africa

yeah I’ve made this claim back then . I know this will sound weaselly but I think it’s more to do with Blizzard being laughingly incompetent than a fault with RQ

[Wingston-11610]

@Poytheon-1466

Now with her barrier being weaker & fortify being stronger she’s more useful outside of just having a shield.

She’s also weaker since she essentially has NO shield, as an anchor tank.

[Hyphen-21921]

Wait I almost missed this.

So you are telling me, that a system that encourages lack of versatility (because you cant swap roles), and also gives more “safety” for onetricks so the chances they can play the hero they are OTP of are higher , do NOT prove that the number now is higher than lets say … in 2017 ?

Is that it?

So we have a very logical conclusion but since we dont have the actual empirical data from the servers and I cant pull off 40M profiles, you are going to claim that “who knows”?
Look mate, it was fun till now, but if you call that rationalization “silly”, IDK what to tell you besides … Ok dude , stalemate

Since you also dont have screenshots of a hundred gazillion matches to prove any of my other claims false, this ends here

[Wingston-11610]

@Poytheon-1466

Same. I’ll take a longer queue with a higher quality game any day.

Same, but after waiting about 10 years… I’m kind of getting impatient waiting for a quality game to come out.

[kongajinken-1805]

Honestly they need to remove role queue from QP and have role queue be exclusively comp.

[LucioLover-2899]

Blizzard abandoning the game killed the game.

[Huevoasesino-11543]

Or you now, there is quickplay classic which you can choose

[Socrates-11282]

@KevinAteNine-1753

I know this will sound weaselly but I think it’s more to do with Blizzard being laughingly incompetent than a fault with RQ

Possibly, but then again we’ve arguably had better balance before RoleQ happened when Dive was meta and RoleQ has provided us with some of the worst balance we’ve seen, namely Double Shield and all the nerfs and changes that has brought to the game.