Reinhardt is the problem

Everybody who plays monkey plays him without another shield tank.

Monkey is a main tank. Hes played with dva and zarya fot his off tanks. And he counters rein and sigma

Sigma is an off tank thats play with every main tank and off tank if he wants to. Hes super versatile and he counters rein.

Meta sigma comps in the past were ball/sig sigma/orisa and sigma/hog

with doom and buffed mei, and serious matrix nerfs, idk if that alone would be enough. honestly im not sure the traditional dive comp could out damage bap moira or bap lucio. idk maybe with doom soldier but its lost alot of magic.

How did you get to diamond (top 10% of playerbase) by just playing King’s row, where Rein is actually a good tank choice?

Rein is literally a throw pick in high elo. There’s no way you actually believe he needs to get nerfed.

In a perfect world maybe. But in a world where someone picks hog, good luck with that monke then.

I’m amazed people are out here in some SR thinking Rein is a problem. He’s trash and has been trash for a long time. Ball, Hog, Sigma are disasters for tanks in high SR now, and it’s a flat out balance issue.

hog isnt bad and isnt good hes just weird. he shouldnt be meta but hes not meta cause hes strong hes meta because people arent playing the game like a team based shooter. their being selfish and playing for themselves which caters to roadhogs playstyle

hog isnt healthy for the game. not cause hes op. but because he enables selfish playstyles that shouldnt be allowed in a team based game.

and on top of that. he is only fun for the person that plays him. everybody else on a team dreads a hog player. because he doesnt provide ANYTHING to a team

his hook needs to be less forgiving and he needs a peel ability for him to be even CONSIDERED to be helpfull to a team.

Oh no ball is meta in the 1 % of all games.

Big deal. Look around, m8. Rein is everywhere and will always be.

You are totally right about Hog. He’s fine, but he’s not good for the game. Flats said any time Hog is a good pick (and he is a very good pick right now) in high SR, the game is poorly balanced.

Hog is picked because Ball is picked. That’s it. Ball is of course the bigger issue here…but someone can pick Hog at any time, and the entire team comp goes out the window whenever someone picks Hog. There is no other hero in the game that does that to a team in quite the same way as Hog.

I wish they actually try what they’ve been considering and move Hog and Ball to DPS (and I guess DF and Mei to tank? Haha)

There is no meta under GM. I said what I said. Don’t @ me.

I think, if Reinhardt is going to be the only tank with no range outside of easy to dodge CD skills, its more healthy for him to be a beast in the game. Even if he did 10000 damage per swing, there’d be characters who perfectly counter him just by standing on a ledge and shooting him while he can’t do anything about them.

Oh. Flats said it, so it must be true/ /s.

why is a community manager coming out as blue post in forum?

shouldn’t it be reserved for actual people doing balance and not for community managers?

because it’s misleading

you likely do not have any say in balance and yet when people see a blue icon they will crowd the thread because they think they are likely talking to some balance important person

That’s how the game feels though. For the players not playing Hog on either team, who is having a fun, engaging teamwork orientated game? He’s a selfish pick that forces the other tank to another selfish pick.

Whether you like it or not, Flats is a great tank player. He’s popular for a reason. And, also whether you like it or not, a competitive-based game depends on top-down balance for longevity and survival. In GM, Hog is too strong a pick (due to Ball, of course), and that’s not healthy for the game.

Blue means they work for Blizzard. That’s it. Nothing misleading about it.

It is what it is

There are other ways to avoid Earthshatter… Splitting up is Number 1
Using Rein is Number 2
Winston Bubble
Zarya Bubbles
Mei’s Icewall and Cryofreeze
ETC…

Short answer: No. :slightly_smiling_face:

Long answer: Blue posts track Blizzard teammates on the forums, which would include Community Managers on the Overwatch Team! However, there’s no need to worry because I am in very close contact with everyone on my team. We talk every day!

It’s actually very encouraging how collaborative and respectful everyone is on Team 4. I haven’t met anyone who gatekeeps or knocks people out of a discussion because they aren’t a “balance important person”. I love this game, and I am super passionate about engaging with the community and representing the community to my team (and vice-versa)!! You will continue to see my name pop up on the forums to provide discussions, share information, and maybe engage in some light to moderate trolling. :relaxed:

I thought this was super sweet when I joined, but we close out every Team 4 standup by saying, “Let’s make a great game!”

That applies to all of us-- even the Community Managers.

:blue_heart: :blue_heart:

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I wish this were true in my games. I decided to one trick Dva this season. Nearly every game the other tank is Hog. Oddly, the other team tends to be Rein/Zarya.

My biggest fear for OW2 is that Rein will become even more mandatory than he already is and outshine the rest of the tanks by a country mile.

First of all, the tank who has received the most changes for OW2 (that the community has been made aware of), is Rein. He got a lot of new things added to his kit, whereas the rest of the tank cast got some partial reverts that don’t even bring them in line with how good they were when OW launched in 2016. And that was when you could have any number of tanks on your team.

But my biggest concern is barrier health. The player base doesn’t know how to play without barriers. And if I recall correctly, Rein’s barrier has a pool of 1600. As far as I know, no other tank in OW2 has even close to this amount of health. I think it’s like, 600-800 tops.

I hate Rein. I don’t want to play him - ever. I feel that because OW2 is just one tank, that he’s going to be essentially the only tank.

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It’s not you need to block earth shatter,
It’s just you suck at the game and all group up as if you had a rein.

Rein is the Reaper of tanks. He should never be meta at a high level.