Reinhardt and D.Va aren't overpowered

I actually didn’t relize take a breath had that ability. I knew it cut the damage he take cut in half.

So solution then is to nerf shields. We can play without main healer, we can play with only 1 healer, we can play without off-tank and we can without any DPS. But for some reason main tanks must have special treatment.

I don’t think the majority of people actually believe either are OP, or even imbalanced. In fact, a user on the forums just linked me to a survey done on the overwatch community where 75+% answered that they felt both were balanced heroes.

Edit: this place has a vocal minority sometimes.

I agree that they don’t need nerfs but orisa definitely needs a buff. She is way to easily overwhelmed with all the damage thrown at her

It isn’t well known, as you don’t really notice it all that much when playing road, and when you are shooting him, you don’t notice either

This is news to me. Got the source?

There is way too much damage at the time, shields will remain popular until they are grinded to irrelevance.

I’m aware of it, but some people think he is. I’m addressing this to the vocal minority.

Another point, Reinhardt has suffered immensely from power and CC creep the game suffered. He is pretty much only left standing because he is the only option.

just because you can play withoput main healer they are still need. one healer can work but a lot of support players hate playing that situation.

Half damage=half ult charge

new zarya ability “Tribute to Yuri Gagarin” she rides a rocket around in any direction she likes.

seriously tho

So it doesnt mean he cant be nerfed. he isnt over powered but he does over preform a lot. he has great damage up close. he charges his ult fast with fire strike and his shield has a good chunk of health more than any one else even orisa with 900 hp shield. he carries the team with not much work. he shouldnt be able to.

I mean, I guess that makes sense? That wasn’t really what I was thinking.

But you can’t justify a nerf to him because there is no way for you to really know if he is overpowered, since he has zero competition in his role. And taking away his damage would also take away his fun, and that ain’t happening because of how bad he feels to play already.

And there will be even more as long they continue trends with power creeping healers and keeping barriers that high. Something needs to die in FPS to progress objective.

Anyway it does not address concern of Earthshatter. Reinhardt has the strongest offensive ult in the game that is farmed very fast. Meanwhile his neutral game is one of the best too. No reason to have both on already mandatory hero.

you cannot play the game without support healer

2 off-healers (Zen+Lucio) were the norm during Dive. Solo Mercy was fine during Moth Meta and was even played this way at OWL S1 play-offs. Solo Ana also was fine during Triple Tank meta.

I would argue strongest offensive ult is dragonblade, but that could be due to inflated numbers as nanoblade is popular

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It is not that great without nano. Anyway Earthshatter has no reason to be that powerful and that cheap if Rein to remain mandatory due to his barrier.

Yeah, it isn’t a direct passive he gets or anything, but it still helps. I think he could use some sort of passive to help reduce the ult charge he gives, but he is fine now too

In what way is it cheap? It averages 4 kill per game in comp, which right in the middle of the pack. While dragonblade could be inflated due to nano, it is still almost 3 more kills on average than rein’s. I don’t think the inflation would change it that much

okay yes you can play with one support. but once that one support is deadhe team either falls apart or team goes of killing the enemy. as a mercy main solo healing solo games are the most streesfull aggravating thing to do.

You are 100% correct. Rein pushes the shield right up to the enemy.
If the enemy manages to get to Orisa’s shield she’s doing it wrong.
She has a good gun for a reason.

I believe Dragonblade is overtuned but that’s the only thing keeping Genji viable in this meta. Earthshatter numbers are deflated because many Shatters are blocked by another Reinhardts. If enemy team has no Rein every Shatter becomes a slaughter.

A hero being the best counter to it’s own ultimate is questionable design.