Question for the Mercy mains

Judging from the amount of up-votes on some of the suggestions, there’s quite a bit of consensus…

As it stands, we have
Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State at the top, with
Suggestions for Mercy from someone with too much time on her 📝 a distant second.

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It is of substance.

I would not accept “Keep Mercy as she is now, with rez on E”. I would not accept removing Resurrect. To say otherwise would be untruthful and incorrect. There are however other options that I would accept, so I reject your question.

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Remove Rez, but give back 60hps.

For me Rez was just a bonus. Her real value came from her healing output.

Remove rez, burn Valkyrie

Your answer, while valid, is ultimately of no substance to a discussion of which option out of two is preferable. I’m not concerned whether either of these options is “good,” only in which of two “bad” options is less bad. But you’re certainly under no obligation to actually answer that question.

I believe you probably did understand what I meant in my original post, but in case you did not I never suggested that these are the only two options possible for Mercy. I only was curious as to which one would be preferable, if it ever came down to one or the other. If my wording confused you or my question upset you, I am sorry for that.

This is the last I’ll be saying here, I really had no intention of discussing the minutia of my wording in such detail in the first place and I feel that it’s more or less run its course

Removing Valkyrie for a burst Ult. I don’t care about E abilities or so but the fundamental issue is Valkyrie in all versions.
And even if he would say that, the Mercy community would not stop to want it back (speaking of the majority).

The discussion would shift even more against Valkyrie in that scenario, because non of the point’s are acceptable.

I have answered the question. Neither option is acceptable.

Instead of acquiescing to one of two terrible options, I have taken the logical path of suggesting alternate paths that would be acceptable.

If by some strange twist of fate I was forced to choose between the two… I’d be with Halofreak over here, with the exception of not owning a Mercy statue.

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It’s the most powerful ability in the game.

Why do you think they’ve had such a hard time balancing it?

If Mercy became fun again then the second option.
She’s so bland and boring right now that I could play her in my sleep.

Because some idiot on the Overwatch team decided it’d be a good idea to turn an Ultimate into a cooldown ability.

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It wasn’t a horrible idea.

It was just horribly executed.

Lolwat. How is turning an Ultimate ability into a cooldown ability not a horrible idea?

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Depending on the ult it could work. For example old Molten Core. The thing is mostly a large collection of numbers buffs. There’s enough balancing levers present in that that you can reduce it to E levels of power. That’s why Overload seems to be mostly working out.

Resurrect though… no. Not enough balance levers to tone it down without being ridiculously creative… and… well… they weren’t.

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Because they’re a bunch of dinguses who don’t ask their community for help when we’ve given them plenty of suggestions and guidelines that would be great to test.

Oh, and they have many ‘other ideas for Mercy’ but never put them on the PTR for testing the builds out to see if we like them.

Resurrect is an ultimate, that’s why it can’t be balanced as an E.
It needs to be put back as her ultimate with tweaks.
Where they went wrong is the invulnerability. That’s what made her OP.

It was an easy fix and they just decided to, instead of adjust, completely reworked her into the garbage she is now.

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I don’t mind Rez on E. That being said they need to work on her more. She is completely defenseless if nobody protects her and all the nerfs are ridiculous to a healer that is meant to be so good. Put her next to Brig or Moira she is not going to be the pick because she can’t protect herself as well. And Brig is a good support in comparison.

I thought the rework was supposed to make Mercy less dependent on her team…

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I also thought the rework was to make her be a “game changer” and open up a “number of possibilities for her”.

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To be fair it did open up quite a few possibilities:

  • Taking a bathroom break while ulting
  • Having dinner while ulting
  • Hanging out with friends while ulting
  • Reading a good book while ulting
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Whats worse is they made rez such a chore to even make it ‘balanced’ as an ability

You create a mobile healer who lacks any self defense and her only source of defense is through mobility yet they gave made her E ability, slow her down, risk dying during mid-fights and makes her a prime target out in the open.

What in the world where they thinking.

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In a very slight defense of the devs… E Res didn’t start like that, and by the time they did that they may in fact have been panicking.

But you are absolutely right. That wasn’t a good way to nerf E Res.