Good luck getting brigitte nerfed when shes barely holding onto 10th in gm/master/diamond spot and 6-8 spot in plat and below when mercy was actually overpowered and it took 6 months to nerf her and shes still meta and frankly overpowered in different ways.
everyones going to be complaining about hammond and triple tank dive soon anyways, everyone will forget about brig when hammond eviscerates her. Her cc is extremely ineffective vs him and she is one of the easiest supports for him to do damage to
How is it Biased anyone could see their stats if they choose
You could also use your logic in reverse
Implying Overbuff was ever reliable in the first place.
Even before the private profiles, Overbuff was biased toward low ranked players that care enough about their stats and want to compare how they fare against other people. You always had to read that data with this bias in mind, and knowing it don’t represent the masses.
The current data pool definitely will be smaller than before, but it’s not more unreliable than it was one month ago.
Why would high tier player care about their stats they know they’re good players they don’t have to see their stats to prove it
The only reason her pickrate isn’t higher is because the meta is already built around not picking who she counters because if you do she takes a big fat dump over your whole team by existing. And even then she has above average pickrate and the highest winrate in the game. Truly the most balanced hero in Overwatch, second only to Mercy.
10th in pick rate is literally middle-of-the-pack… She’s being outshined by Moira and Zen by leagues and the only reason she has any pick rate is because brawl-type comps and double sniper are the “meta”. Once Phara becomes further enabled with the inclusion of Wrecking Ball, expect Brig all but vanish.
We know Overbuff was biased towards high ranked players because their distribution of population don’t match the official stats that Jeff gave us. It have a much higher high tier population, which implies that low tier players are less likely to check their data into a random unofficial website.
Again, it’s still a massive collection of data that we can use to base a lot of arguments because the sample data is significative enough, but that was true before private profiles, and is still true after private profiles.
Overbuff stats are “biased” because the lower-half of the majority tier of players and below (ie low-plat and below) don’t use the site as much as plat+ players do.
No quotes, that’s literally what bias means when talking about data.
The data pool of Overbuff is immense, and very valuable. But you need to be aware of this bias when analyzing their data. I remember before Jeff gave us official stats, a lot of people actually believed that platinum was average because of it, and then we found out the median is around 2300 SR. Ie, mid-gold.
If it bias it’s unusable data
What was Overbuff rank population in season 9 to make you think it was so off that it had to be bias and just a margin of error
Not if you keep the bias in mind. Eg, a presidential pool saying the Democrat candidate have 40% of the votes hold a very different weight if it was done in a mostly Democrat zone or a most Republican zone.
If you are high-ranked yourself (IMO, diamond and above), Overbuff show a very precise scenario of what you meet in real game. It’s probable that the data pool on those ranks are very close to the same data Blizzard have. But if you are a gold and below player, it’s still relevant for big data sake, but of much less value in an individual level.
It’s all about correctly interpreting the data. But then, that’s argument for a whole class of statistics that I don’t think is worthy derailing the thread even more. But I would advise everyone reading here to check out Khan Academy playlist on the subject. It’s a nice introduction for those who don’t know much about how statistics work.
you don’t understand though, he made this post as a pat on the back, he only wanted Brigitte haters on this post to stroke his ego and tell him that he’s right. Anybody who says differently is derailing his post.
We are looking at here pick rate because it has to do with her win rate, being the tenth most picked character that's quite a few people playing her, with such a large sample size and a win rate of 57%, a large portion of people can play here with little difficultly. Brigette was released before privet profiles so we can assume that this data is semi-accurate.
For an entire season before private profiles she had an insane win rate from Bronze - Masters. She only reached normalcy in GM where the go to meta was double sniper (if she had a huge pick rate in that comp that’d be a SERIOUS problem.)
She is, afaik, the only hero to have for an entire season maintained an above 50% win rate in bronze without having turrets in their kit.
Her skill floor is rock bottom, it’s as far as you can go without automating parts of it.
She is a horribly designed hero, trying to argue she is fine just reveals that you really don’t know what you’re talking about. You can argue she is balanced at the highest tiers, that’s GM+, but outside of that, “fine” is not a word you should use to describe her.
Whit this Argument Blizzard would nerf any other balanced Heroes too and on Console they wouldd instant nerf Pharah because she is the #1 DPS in GM and has a like over 90% Pickrate at GM and below because Pharmercy is broken on Console
Where is it a fact ? i didnt have see it why players calls a opinion a Fact.
Brigitte is balanced she isnt even a Must Pick stay at ur Team and learn to counter her
everyones going to be complaining about hammond and triple tank dive soon anyways, everyone will forget about brig when hammond eviscerates her. Her cc is extremely ineffective vs him and she is one of the easiest supports for him to do damage to