Paris is the first map I absolutely refuse to play.
Some people don’t realize they lack the synapse to demand anything out of anyone on here.
And your solution would most likely polarise people who otherwise wouldn’t really have any problems. So people quit a Paris match. They might be the best teammate you could ever hope for in literally every other map. Are you really saying it’s a good idea to alienate those people just because they don’t do what you like on one map?
You think you’ve thought through your “solution”, but you haven’t.
I’d never leave a game myself, but if a person leaves Paris before the game starts, I applaud them. They are a hero.
And you are so focused on paris that you fail to see the bigger picture. I’m looking for a solution to address the leaver problem in general as a whole which plagues this community.
I don’t care about particular specific instances such as leaving on paris, leaving because we lost round 1 on x map whatever it doesn’t matter.
What matters is that too many people leave and we need a solution and this is the one that is a combination of easy to implement, fast to implement, and will produce instant results.
If you think I’m wrong go ahead and tell me your best idea to address leavers that can fulfill the criteria.
It’s better than the moon base.
Again: Leaving is a symptom of a problem, not the problem itself. If you punish the symptom without addressing the problem, the symptom will simply change forms.
I don’t know what the answer is, but I know harsher punishments isn’t it. Just because you have an answer doesn’t mean that answer is a good one.
It’s the best one we have especially between the two of us if your answer is you don’t have one. So I know for sure my solution is better than yours because doing nothing has led to the amount of leavers we have in the first place.
You would probably want them to do things like improve maps, “try” to decrease toxicity, make roles more fun to play and more balanced etc. These are some of the things that cause leavers.
Guess what? There are way too many problems and way too many reasons why people leave. Dealing with all that stuff would take way too long, be way too messy, and still might end up being mildly to non successful. Should they try? Sure go ahead.
But only in addition to harsher penalties not in place of them. Because my solution is immediately testable and will produce instant results. Which is what we need right now because the leaver epidemic is destroying comp.
Again: Just because you have an answer doesn’t make that answer a good one.
You’re clinging to this idea that severe punishments are going to stop the bad behaviour because logic, but you’re totally ignoring that the vast majority of people don’t function based on logic. They function based on emotion.
Have you ever experienced a bad outcome resulting from doing something you felt was appropriate or correct or justified? How’d that work out for you?
I bet you’d feel pretty crappy about it. Maybe you’d want payback. Maybe you’d want to prove you can still do that thing, but this time you’ll be careful to avoid that punishment. Maybe you’d just go do something else instead, because screw that thing. That’s how people are. Harsh punishments are never going to give results that you can truly call positive.
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Lol dude I think everyone knows dipping on a match is a bannabke offense but if he feels like leaving for people to not have to play an honestly not so fun match then he can. If he gets banned it’s in him and he can just get a new account. I see where you are coming from with the “Oh this game is turning to garbage because people are always leaving if there is always a smurf” talk but like people are gonna do what they want. Ya it sucks when people quit on a match trust me I would know loosing 1000 Sr in a day due to leavers and throwers but it’s part of the game community and it wouldn’t be the game we love without all of the BS and toxicity. Sometimes you just gotta join it instead of fighting it. Much more fun that way.
I made a reaction thread to this one (and to many more that were in the same spirit).
Take a look and tell me if it’s ok that people were in majority against me and liked the posts of those who advocate for people leaving games on purpose.
My point is that our community is becoming problematic since bad manners and behaviors are tolerated and even approved while people like me that point out how wrong it is get insulted.
Tell me what we’re supposed to do with this…
simple solution punish leavers by making them fight in paris only!
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Good idea:
- Pick 1 unpreferred map
- Your selection becomes much less likely in the random map rotation.
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It’s basically exploit when it comes to winning in Competitive. Plus, imagine if people land on their “unpreferred” map by accident… Incoming salt on the forums for sure.
Let’s not give whiners more opportunities to flood us over with even more toxic threads…
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people that leave on 2cp maps are the heroes we don’t deserve
People leaving will get banned for the season at some point. Let them leave as long as it’s at the very start.
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I remember that post. I flagged it as trolling.
Thanks for your honesty and for being upfront when it comes to illustrating samples that are representative of the population that is becoming problematic within the Overwatch community.
To everyone else :
See, guys, this persone above is the perfect example of what’s wrong within our community. 2-3 years ago, this type of behaviour wouldn’t be condoned.
When people start to cheer players that leave games on purpose and start going against people that speak up by saying how harmful it is to do such a thing on a game, their post get flagged as trolling.
False reporting people that promote a good behaviour should also be reported as an offense and 141 likes to a post that is cheering negativity and celebrating toxicity shouldn’t exist.
I wonder what Blizzard is doing… In 2016-2017, it would be the other way around. Defending bad manners and people that ruin the game experience won’t do any good to the game in the long run.
I hope most of you understand where the issue lies now.
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Welcome to overwatch. The mute button is your friend. Time to stop living your delusion and start accepting reality.
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Overwatch wasn’t always like this and you’d know it if you were anywhere nearby the last 3 years that have passed. That’s my whole point : we can’t let the toxic people from our community take over.
We should call out toxic behaviors at all times.
It doesn’t do much when people throw, leave games on purpose and are vocal about nerfs, buffs and system changes (like role queue) most of the time. Remaining silent won’t do anything to counter it.
Going against those bad manners might, though.
You wouldn’t act so bold and confident if the game’s policy was as strict as it was before. Beware of that, devs might take action again soon.
Feel free to leave games on purpose when not liking a specific map and defend people like you while you still can, it might come to an end soon.
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