I mean you can play it casually through arcade and qp.
This game died the day they started trying to balance it
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Two spots above wallpaper engine. Counter strike and dota are 1 and 2
Not saying these games arenāt great but they do not reflect global trends on other game platforms. 
Maybe not use steams most played as a standard
I donāt play TF2, but at least as far as I am aware the game seems to have a massive problem with bots, so those numbers donāt really mean a lot.
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Have you ever played any Mario Kart? Those are fun games.
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I agree Kong.
I think they should have just made it an Arcade style game, with high scores on maps in various categories and other fun stuff, and kept the game about chilling with your mates and having a laugh.
Heck, Iād have made it so you could play all the arcade games in Hanamura if you wanted too. Just drop a coin in and have fun. Let people watch you play. Have high scores there as well.
The OW experience should have been all about low key fun. It should have been a place you wanted to hang out with your friends from all over the world, with the emphasis on āplayā.
The whole comp/OWL thing just poisoned the game, and still does IMHO. Ranks and rank shaming, smurfs, stuck metas, boosting, on and on.
If they had taken all the money and effort they dumped into OWL and put it into maps, characters, events, skins, and voice lines, etc., theyād have had a stronger franchise overall than the one they have now.
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Valve actually did something for once a few weeks ago and pushed out some updates that screwed a couple of the bot systems. Though really just the fact that a 15 year old game has any active community at all is impressive.
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You asked āwho tf still plays TF2ā and I gave you live data. 105k people are playing it right now.
Itās a Steam game, you play it through Steam. Thatās the official data source. Iām not comparing it to āglobal trends on other game platformsā because that wasnāt the question.
I havenāt played TF2 in a very long time because it really went downhill for me after the f2p update back in the day, but I do think for such an old game that receives basically no content now from its developer, itās doing well for itself. If its still drawing new players in, even more power to it.
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If the game is not fun, when it is, the fun is the reward itselfā¦
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I feel like weāre not too far from that either,
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I still play TF2 from time to time. Still fun. Especially if you go to community servers, that ban bot accounts faster, than VAC does.
And competitive play had their own rules, that didnāt affect casuals mostly(restrictions of classes picked and weapons used). Modding allowed not only visual changes, but coming up with new gamemods, like Vs Saxton Hale(basically boss fight).
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confirming this: my older bro bought me the game and iāve been hooked ever sinceā¦ but, he was an extremely casual player, he liked symm for the auto-lock primary attack because he doesnt have the time available to āget goodā, he liked brigs extreme durability at her release. these heroes are nowhere near as acccesable for non-FPS players now, and he doesnt play anymore. the constant nerfs to the easier to play heroes really drove away the casual playerbase 
and it sucks
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It is a party gameā¦
Nobody has taken the OWL serious in 3-4 years. Not to mention how the overall competitive FPS community thinks overwatch is more or less a joke.
That definitely sounds more fun, but the gameās monetization is tied to the OWL marketing scheme so I donāt think they would do this for us. Are people going to go watch a party game at an arena IRL? Watch it streamed? I dunnoā¦
Nah, you just find being cheesy fun. Most people donāt.
I mean just look at the numbers, despite blizzard doing everything to pander to competitive players as casual players left the game in droves, and with competitive mode unlocking exclusive items, only a minority of the playerbase is playing ranked.
Nobody who played overwatch near launch could say with a straight face that it was designed to be a highly competitive game
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Well overwatch from the beginning was always meant to be a competitive title even titan was. Itās really cool to see how a casual player base has grown around overwatch who have absolutely no desire in comp however itās a little frightening when you see the hardcore qp warriors
Thank you! This is my main argument, and why I hate when every hero is more skill-focused than the last. This is also my point with Dead By Daylight; just because some pros came in and found how to break it, ruined a lot of the fun. Iāll still play, but people like me just trying to have fun and not sweat are getting zoned out. Well, what can you do.
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Or people with Diamond borders in Bronze comp lol.
i always thought this game should be some chuck e. cheese game but who knows what would have happened if it went that route?
you have party games like among us and fall guys while casual can be pretty hardcore with people wanting to win. i remember the toxicity of among us when it was popular. people really took that game seriously and it even wasnt competitive (probably kids trying to emulate xqcās toxicity and competitiveness 
).
so could have overwatch actually emulated thatā¦ who knows i mean it is a six year old gameā¦ its old and competitive probably has people wanting to play for that reason. to compete. so i dont have a clue if overwatch never went competitive. i mean no content is no content so that 3 year period of trickling content REALLY HURT THE GAME. i think thats what really did itā¦