ty. i hope too one day this issue can be solved and i myself deal with anger issues everyday.
i have my own ideas about how it might be addressed, but i have spammed them enough in other threads. i would like your opinion. i crave it like an overweight woman craves choco bars as she watches ROMCOMs and has nothing to shovel icecream down her throat with but her bonbon stained hands. if u were in charge, what would u do? what insane idea would put forth as a mad scientist in a playroom of children to brainwash that would combat this issue?
I disagree. If I only had one account I would have dropped from diamond to gold by simply playing DPS instead of tank or healer. I don’t think we should introduce any more reasons for people to have multiple accounts.
Literally the problem with the player base right here. This mindset.
Quick question for you. If there’s 7 ranks (T500 is technically GM), and Platinum is #4, how tf is it a “low-rank”? Better yet, isn’t platinum defined as being 20% of the player base? Just barely above gold which is average? Yet, it’s a “low rank”. Ugh… this community.
I’d like to mention, a lot of us higher ranked players were also low elo. It took me getting to silver boarder to get to diamond for the first time. Most of us have plenty of experience in lower elo.
It’s something I’ve seen a lot of on here, and honestly it’s not worth the time to argue about it. Those of us who choose to improve get past this, those who don’t almost always stay low.
It has to do with the bell curve. It’s not as high as people think it is, sitting at slightly above average, and many of the issues of gold are still present in platinum.
Though, it should be mentioned that a lot of new players are placed gold, only to fall to bronze. There should be more in place than just that, and initial placements should be done in a different manner
although i invite more discussion about it, i would like to remind people its not just about punishing people for hanging out in low elo. I THINK if we only talk about punishment, no one will want to get punished and no one will want to stop the madness. I THINK we should we should also talk about ways to make the system more rewarding for people that only play one account
I’m sorry, even if we’re talking about unrealistic, pie in the sky solutions I can’t think of any. I’m not very creative.
The dev team are pretty damn smart, though. So I suspect they’ve dreamed up solutions but when they thought about the implementation decided they wouldn’t work or would change the game in a way they don’t want to.
Seriously, one of the biggest issues in low tiers is people not playing to win getting carried by performance stats even though they spend most of their games soft-throwing.
Every design decision the Competitive Overwatch devs have made has been a stream of iterative mistakes made by several other companies since multiplayer competitive games have existed. The SR design flip-flopping, mistakes in Overtime mechanics, comp points having no value still yet, personal performance being factored into your rank, a lack of leaderboard or personal stats, releasing vastly overpowered characters in the middle of a season, etc. are all things that have been questioned/occurred in popular titles such as League of Legends and World of Warcraft PvP.
For whatever reason, the Overwatch Competitive team thinks they can reinvent the wheel, but all they have done is stumble over the same mistakes others have made without improving anything. Overwatch is basically being designed in a bubble by devs who largely ignore social media (sans SJW topics) and its own ESports athletes until sales get so poor they are forced to act. How Brig and Doomfist were released in their original states is so far above and beyond anything remotely imaginable that it makes me actively question if this game will survive past 2020.
I stopped playing Overwatch for literally 2 full years, came back and immediately queued into Comp mode and made Plat 1 in a couple hours with a 65% winrate. Unless you’re playing hit-scan characters, the skill-cap in this game is on the far low-end. Beyond OP Brig and DF (at that time), the game basically hadn’t changed whatsoever. Picks and meta were the same, maps were largely irrelevant, modes were the same. The Overwatch “community” also hadn’t changed, complaining about the same trivial nonsense of “trolls, smurfs, grievers, toxic people are in EVERY game” and “voice chat is ALWAYS toxic”. I experienced 0 trolls/leavers/smurfs in my Gold/Plat games, and I had no problems using voice chat to coordinate my plays.
It’s alarming to me how people aren’t actively up in-arms, demanding the OW devs actually improve the game instead of phoning it in for OWL, and still waste hundreds upon hundreds of man-hours posting in the forums and Reddit about the fantasy that is ELO-hell and making excuses about there’s no way to improve yourself despite having dozens of tools available to you. In the year 2019, you can literally watch Youtube for 2 hours on OW tutorials, practice for an hour in-game, then jump into Comp and easily start winning games; I guess it’s a lot easier to jump in the forums and complain than do the work.
You’ll still climb despite those stupid teammates if you’re good.
I’ve done bronze to plat as mercy, arguably the hardest support to carry as.
Your friend needs to accept that they’re not good enough to climb solo
I had a scrim with masters and did good, doesn’t mean I’m a masters player, my team just carried my trash plays.
And how they are go na improve if you will keep telling them how good they are. People need to her honest truth so they can improve. But you can surely tell others what to improve, not just tell them how bad they are.
personally i dont want them to fix the problems so that i can climb, i want them to fix the problems cause the community is toxic. when i first started playing i could play 10 games in a row with duos on each team taking turns throwing and headshotting everyone with Widow/Hanzo or Genji/Mercy 2v6ing the entire team. a string of games with and against the same duo’s that start a game with ‘ninjagear is throwing’ while they are afk in spawn cause i called them out in voice. does it happen every time i play? NO. i learned that these people play primarily during the daytime, and have learned to avoid them. but i know they are still there scaring new customers off.
the changes i think that Dev have not tried yet are twofold:
league made a role system in their game. people in the forums screamed up and down that it was not gunna fix the problems, but it really did help to combat them (it went from ‘mid or troll’ in about 1/3 the games to that same statement rarely being seen at all). i also notice that league has 3 major queues: blind, draft and ranked. i understand why OW devs dont want to split the queues further, but i think they should, and im not alone on this.
Fortnite charges for seasons passes, and i think the addition of this feature as well, in combination with temp bans and better season rewards, would greatly improve the communities engagement with each other.
In bronze/silver I’d assume The best way to handled Pharah would be D. Va, Zenyatta, Soldier (mccree is better IF The dps have ok aim which again in those ranks only would happen IF getting a smurf or a genuine OW newbie that comes from another fps like cs, quake etc. and being high skilled).
When facing some heroes like pharah you often need to adapt The comp as a whole and not only rely on a one-one counter-picking.
