I agree that you need practice. But competitive is not the place to play hero to practice only one hero, when several different ones are necessary. QP and Comp are different, yes, but they are also incredibly similar for learning how a hero performs in certain scenarios.
Practice does not equal one-tricking. One tricking means only playing the same hero no matter what. Practicing means trying to improve.
i know but you do have placed to practice them is what im saying. You just dont wanna use them XD
Says who? If Iâm trying to become better at competitive and gain SR (which correlates to skill which I think a lot of people forget, itâs not just a lottery number you get for getting lucky by winning games), how else do I do that than by playing competitive?
To an extent, but when those scenarios are drastically changed (QP and Comp), than you must learn how to play each scenario differently, because they are vastly different.
One trick, in my opinion, one trick, to be really good at one hero. Thus, theyâre always practicing. Just my opinion though.
To me, one tricks are players who have REALLY inflated egos, and think that they can play their main and win every single time, if people work around them. I think weâre on different levels of thinking here, because youâre describing people who are willing to switch, and thatâs not what I think of when I hear âone-trickâ.
I agree, only the player can decide if they can fill the role that is needed, but there are many examples that enter my mind of times where obvious situations that require change are met with refusal to play anyone else other than who they want.
Ah, I think here is our issue. When I think of a one-trick, it is someone who only plays one hero (thus why it is called a one-trick, because they can only do one thing). There is a difference between only playing one hero, and playing a certain hero because you are really good as him.
Iâm talking about the idea that one-tricking is throwing (imo) if someone refuses to swap, even if they arenât performing really well. Youâre talking about someone refusing to swap because they are trying to improve.
Indeed. This is the problem, because Iâve been called a âone-trickâ, but how does one define âone-trickâ? Simply playing Mercy automatically makes you a âone-trickâ in a lot of peoples eyes. As I said before, this is the mentality of the player base and it is obvious why the player base is not qualified to pass judgement on others over this.
This is why you cannot allow players to report for âone-trickingâ, since the definition itself isnât a universally accepted or understood thing. 
Youâre right thatâs what Iâm talking about because I do have an account where all I play is Tracer and I get flamed and reported all the time for not switching (in competitive) because Iâm trying to improve. The whole reason I donât swap (and thus would define myself as a one trick) is because I can never improve if I do swap. Iâll always be playing my better heroes, and I wonât ever improve on my favorite hero.
ONE-tricking. One. meaning they only play one character. If you play other things than youre not a one trick. But having 67 hours on mecy and 1 hr on lucio would still make you a onetrick to most people.
In reality, you could report someone for wearing an ugly skin if you really wanted, simply nothing would happen unless a bunch of others reported them for whatever reason too. Itâs false reporting and morally wrong to be sure, but you can technically report whenever you want and for whatever reason and youâll never be punished for it.
As for one-tricksâŚWell, youâll just have to use your own judgement and decide on an individual case by case basis what you consider to be game-play sabotage. If others agree with your definition, bans will happen, if not? Well, then nothing will happen on either score as the system is fully automated ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
I actually talked to a moderator and he said the system is not automated at all and each ticket is looked at by a moderator. Which I donât believe at all.
I know underneath the gameplay sabotage it says you cant report someone for an unwillingness to switch, but wouldnt that be considered an unwillingness to work with a team. These reporting guide lines either need to be modified to be more specific or they need to be more spots for more reports. im not sure. i just know letting players decide whats right isnt right.
why let something as big as being banned be left up to an ambiguous guideline.
I believe they are checked by a human before issuing the ban.
What I also believe is that they have a fair share of moderators that donât do their jobs and simply accept anything the system flags to them.
You see, I understand where youâre coming from now. TBH though I still disagree. I think that Comp is for improving your overall skill, not just a place to practice a hero.
Even though I disagree, I still think youâre right, that it can be used for practice.
I believe as it has been defined several times according to various posts " A one - trick in Overwatch is when a player only plays one hero. They insta-lock whoever it is, no matter the team composition ".
So, this means that it is universally understood. Even Jeff Kaplan has said that he wants to fix the âone-trickâ problem, especially in higher ranks of play.
Besides, itâs not players who decide whether or not the user is punished. Itâs up to moderators to decide if something is punishable. So I see no harm in reporting someone who one-tricks a certain hero, because if itâs a reason that your team lost, itâs throwing.
Technically, if you are playing your best hero and doing your best to help your team⌠regardless of how toxic they are being and asking you to swap, but you know youâre not going to get much better results or something along those lines, then your best bet is to stay as the hero you want to play and know youâre best at.
Iâm a support main. I wouldnât want to play tank or DPS. If I was forced to, weâd have a lower chance at winning since I donât know how to properly perform the roles.
By telling someone to stop what theyâre doing and start playing a hero theyâre worse at , youâre just gonna detriment yourself to a worse game than you would if they were on their best hero. SoâŚ
Best to let sleeping dogs lie. Youâre not allowed to report someone for not wanting to swap/one tricking, regardless of the circumstances. IF theyâre trying their best as the hero theyâre on, theyâre not being poor teammates or trolling. Youâre just being toxic.
Throwing is when youâre willingly letting your team lose and feeding the enemy team. If youâre trying your best and the like, youâre not trolling. Just gotta communicate with them to help them keep track of where to go and what enemies are doing what.
And if you go to a âtroll pickâ just because theyâre playing someone you donât want to see⌠guess what? Youâre the troll. And youâre reportable if you end up lazing around as âpaybackâ to the person with an off-meta or out-of-comp pick.
You missed the point of the video, which is, micromanaging your teammates gameplay in search for an excuse to report is not a good idea for the community in the long term.
This video is over a year old, and the false reporting issue dwindled down for a while already. Sometimes we find some people (like many replying in this very thread) that still want to find excuses to report people who are playing heroes they donât like, or donât consider optimal. And thatâs wrong, and have been said by Blizzard multiple times that itâs wrong.
You can report certain actions, like moving towards the enemy team repeatedly without firing your weapon just to die on purpose, or jumping into a pit as soon as you respawn, or incontable examples of abusive chat. But in all those situations, the specific hero that player is playing is irrelevant.
In the end, what matters is that regardless of being one tricks or flex or small pool players, whoever win more, climb higher. 99.99% of the players are on the rank they belong. Once you get on diamond and above, winrate is literally the only stat that matter. Unless someone is cheating or abusing a glitch, whatever hero they get their wins is irrelevant.
Fixed that for you.
Because I honestly never ever seen a one trick player demanding the team to always build a comp around them. In fact, they are used to being ignored and adapting to the team playstyle regardless if its a rushdown, deathball or bunker comp.
Being a one trick outside a permanent team means playing with non-optimal comps all the time, and playing against your usual counters all the time. You learn to deal with that simply because if you donât, youâll lose often and drop rank.
The part about inflated egos and such I think itâs a common factor to all players. There is also plenty of players that think just because they switched the comp, they deserve to win the next teamfight, and if they donât, itâs because someone else did something wrong, instead of the other team simply playing better.
Also, we all pick the heroes, strategies and approaches we do in every single game exactly because we judge thatâs the best way to win. Of course we believe our choices are correct, and that we intend to win every single game we play. We donât, because of the PvP nature of the game. But we always think (or should think) that we do. Again, regardless of being a flex or one trick (or anything in between) player.
theres so much wrong with this.
The hero their playing could be making it 10x worse than if they would just swap to whats being asked. for example. a genji one trick against a winston. he will always lose but if he goes lets say soldier or mccree. he can then do better just based on kit alone
This is the defenition of being a poor team mate. Not flexing to help and not communicated make that a bad team mate. im sorry. thats why the report system is bad . An unwillingness to switch is by definition game-play sabotage.
The person is actively refusing to help the team for the greater good which makes they more of a liability than a team mate
He will most definitely lose if he goes in on his own. Without his team or a few allies to pick off the Winston, yes. But, a smart Genji would wait for an opportunity, or just avoid the Winston if they didnât have a dive partner.
TBH, since Genji is countered by Winston, I rarely see them fighting unless itâs the Wiston chasing. If thatâs the case, you need a Reaper-Genji diving combination or something along those lines if your Genji is trying to flank the healers.
This is a team game, yes. But youâre also making it worse if you donât help out where itâs needed. You can help the Genji as long as your team is there.
Teamwork isnât only usable by one person. If someone is doing something like that, you just gotta teamwork with them to flow through it.
Playing your best hero is one thing. Playing only one hero regardless of the scenario is another, and unacceptable. One-tricking is defined as " A one - trick in Overwatch is when a player only plays one hero. They insta-lock whoever it is, no matter the team composition ".
Iâve had moments where I was asked to go from Ana to Zen, but I told them no, because I was far more comfortable with Ana. No big deal, my team let it slide. But, if someone refused to swap just because they donât want to, it means they arenât trying to play as a team.
So⌠if I refused to play another hero by one-tricking, than Iâm willingly letting my team lose, because I refuse to play a more suitable hero. Youâre talking about not swapping because you canât play a variety of heroes (which you really should be able to, but thatâs an argument for another day), Iâm talking about not swapping because you donât want to play a different hero.
Also, congrats on 1500 posts
Thanks!
True, Iâm more of a âone kind of heroâ player rather than a one trick nowadays, but then again I donât entirely face the same lashing out since Iâm a support main. If I pick Mercy 4 times in a row and donât swap, Iâm not usually bugged about it so I wouldnât know. (Though, I do swap supports depending on the situation.)
Iâve been on teams with Symmetra and Torbjorn mains and adapting is really the only thing you can do. Regardless as to the definition, itâs not reportable. If theyâre trying their best, genuinely trying their best to help out, itâs a false report. Many people have been false reported in the past and it caused a huge outrage because of it.
Also, no, refusing to play another hero is not willingly letting your team lose. Itâs willingly letting your team know that you are more comfortable on/playing this particular one and have a feeling and confidence in your ability on that hero that you wouldnât have on another one.