They might not be the most qualified people but they are your team for that game. They determine if you win or lose so why not work with them? Losing and dying alot isnt fun XD
This is a team shooter. There is no point in playing a team shooter if you arenât willing to work as a team. If an entire team is willing to do a composition except for one person, they are the weak link, and can cause the team to lose because they donât want to do something.
Those are both different scenarios than what the OP is describing. He is describing people only playing one hero, and refusing to use teammwork, in a competitive scene. That is throwing imo, because you are refusing to do whatâs best for the game, when a situation calls for it. The beauty of Overwatch is the ability to switch heroes in the middle of the game, something many other team-shooters donât offer. If people refuse to play a hero that is more beneficial, then they are throwing.
Here is an example. There is a Pharah on the enemy team, and your teams DPS are Junkrat and Reaper. If I (the support/tank) ask you to switch to someone who can easily take out Pharah, because she is killing me, and they both refuse because they donât want to, they are saying âI donât want to winâ.
Youâre playing a universally good hero though⌠heâs been the top tank for pretty much the entire time the game has been in existence (except for some spots here and there). He is statistically performing better than any other tank in his role, so it makes since that you wouldnât recieve flak for it.
I main(ed) Ana a long time ago. I got asked to swap all the time to play a different support, until Ana became meta again. (I mean after the triple tank meta, specifically). I didnât one-trick her, but she was by far my best. It just depends on who youâre one tricking. Is it necessarily fair that some people get to one-trick heroes while others canât? No. But is it fair that someone refuses to play the game as itâs meant to be played (as a TEAM shooter)? Also no.
And youâd report them for that? If so, then itâs a false report.
How is someone supposed to get better at a hero if they donât practice it? Are they only supposed to play easy heroes? Does the player only have an obligation to their current team and not their future teams? Wouldnât they be throwing their future games if they didnât get better now? This is competitive like you said and getting better is the ultimate goal.
quick play, training range, custom games.
this legit makes 0 sense. You should be held to a standard to work with the team thats in your current game
You cannot get better in competitive game mode by playing quick play. You get better at competitive by playing competitive.
And future games. You have an obligation to be the best player you can.
Or because my hitscan is ultimately terrible and I would be one less body racking kills on the ground while still not being able to kill Pharah. It happened to me more than once. We get cover from Pharah, and win the ground battle. If she gets close enough to contest the point, we are close enough to hit her with our close range heroes.
Also, if you as support/tank judge that Pharah is the reason why our team is losing, I donât mind if you swap into a hitscan yourself and deal with her. Honestly. If I judge losing your tank will hurt the team more, I swap to your old character. Sometimes going with less tanks can give you an edge because the team is more scattered, and heroes that rely on AoE damage (like Pharah) get less effective.
yes you can? thats is almost exclusively what those are their for LOL
Iâm not saying that I would report them, but Iâm saying that to me, itâs the same as throwing a game. If someone only plays Pharah, even if theyâre a god, they will have maps where Pharah canât function, or have counters on the enemy team, or healers that canât quite heal her effectively (Lucio/Baptiste/Moira), and if they arenât willing to accept that and still only play the same hero, they are going to be one of the biggest reasons a game is going to be lost.
They may be the reason a game is won, but if they only play a certain hero, I guarantee you they will lose games, and they will be at fault. Maybe not entirely, but partially.
How do you get better for a competitive game mode centered around team work and a 2/2/2 meta with 5 dps in your party going in different directions constantly?
You donât.
you act like thats all qp is LOL only 5 dps. But lets say thats all qp was. The traininf range still helps you get comfotorble with what the heros abilities do AND EVEN FURTHER you have custom games which can do whatever you want them to now so please explain how nonw of this will help you get better XD
Again, how do you get better at shooting real players with different hitboxes than training bots while shooting at well⌠training botsâŚ
You donât.
They shouldnât practice heroes in a competitive scene, where you are trying to WIN. Practicing heroes is in arcade, custom games, or quick play. Iâm perfectly fine with someone trying a new hero in competitive, but not if they have no experience with that hero. But that is not what the thread is about. The thread is about one-tricking, where someone only plays one hero. You arenât practicing a hero if you only play them and them alone. I understand the need to practice, but that is not what Iâm talking about.
Practicing heroes for competitive using quick play will be harmful to your positioning and awareness of what competitive is actually about. The only way to really practice is by doing it, and you know as well as I do that quick play and competitive are 2 separate games.
Unless youâre rank 1, you need to practice in my opinion.
exactly. and if someone goes into comp with the mindset of âIm doing this and no one can stop meâ then thats not competitive. Its selfish and makes no sense in the TEAM based shooter
you can program custom games now. I think thats more than enough
Can you program bots to move like real humans?
No.
Can you program bots to combo ultimates?
No.
Do bots have similar positioning to humans?
No.
So how is any of this helpful to making me a better player?
Well, this thread was about what you can report players for, but Iâm glad weâre both in agreement that you canât report people for this.
I think the crux of the matter is that whilst others can make assumptions about how a specific hero would be more effective in a specific scenario, only the player of that hero understands their own personal skill levels with that specific hero and so only the player is qualified to decide which hero would be best played by him/her in whatever scenario theyâre up against.
Youre right they dont. But they have the same hotboxes and what the heck does play like a human even mean XD im mostly saying its a start for people. and at leats getting in some aim practice and hero knowledge is better than going in blind in a competitive game mode
I was never talking about going in blind to competitive. I was talking about practicing a hero.