New Sombra in a nutshell

Sure mate. I am the stupid one here.

Until you can show me the math you are the stupid one…

175% - 150% = 25%
Basic stuff.

her speed boost was decreased from 70% to 50% increase a loss of 20%, her basic movement is 5.5 m/s

5.5 * 70% is 3.85 increase so shes at 9.35
5.5 * 50% is 2.75 increase so shes at 8.25

9.35-8.25 is a loss of 1.1 m/s
5.5 * 20% is a lost of 1.1 m/s as well

where are you getting your numbers? i got mine from the game devs

her speed boost was decreased from 70% to 50% increase a loss of 20%, her basic movement is 5.5 m/s

5.5 * 70% is 3.85 increase so shes at 9.35
5.5 * 50% is 2.75 increase so shes at 8.25

9.35-8.25 is a loss of 1.1 m/s
5.5 * 20% is a lost of 1.1 m/s as well

The patch notes are wrong they have typos in them, Her speed boost used to be 75%.

Here these are accurate.

The problem is there were two different patch notes on this, one says +175, one says +170.

If her base rate is 10m/s, and we multiply her speed by 1.70 she moves at 17m/s. If the multiplier is 1.50 she then moves at 15.0m/s.

15/17*100 = 0.88, or 88% of movement. These are basic ratios.

It is no coincidence that 8.25/9.35 yields the same output - .88 or a given +170 instead of +175 its only a 12% loss from her pre-nerfed stealth speed.

base is 5.5 use that not 10, if you wanna double it use 11 since 5.5 * 2 is 11

It was an example, bu the math still holds either way, net loss of either 12% (+170) or 15%(+175).

Either way her speed decrease is not that much.

thats from 28 days ago tho im pretty sure that is the one with the typo

um your suppose to add it not multiply it.

“If her base rate is 10m/s, and we multiply her speed by 1.70 she moves at 17m/s. If the multiplier is 1.50 she then moves at 15.0m/s.”

it would be 5.5 + 1.7 and 5.5 + 1.5

If you want to make it accurate.

Old: 5,5 times 1.75 = 9,625
New: 5,5 times 1.5 = 8,25

Difference: 9,625 - 8,25 = 1,375

1,375/5,5 = 0,25 equals 25%

thats what i wrote but i used the patch notes instead of the forum notes. either way the math is correct the other guy tho doesn’t seem to understand math at all, i mean how does sombra out run a rein charge wtf

I play Sombra since launch. I know its 75%.

While you guys are arguing about math, I’ll be over here running slower than before, regardless of what the actual number is, because I was nerfed.

Sombra is just as bad as before, if not worse. As soon as people realize that she still has a bunch of core problems not related to her cooldowns, we’ll back to square one.

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We know that and are basically spamming the forums saying the same thing over and over. But Geoff doesnt care.

Dude…

If you want to be cocky by jumping on wording, at least do it right. Her absolute speed during stealth is 15% less, “It” (the bonus) is nerfed by 33% which amounts to 25% less bonus speed.
And yes, that’s big for a game like Overwatch and a character like Sombra. Not worldbreaking HUGE, but still big.

That wasn’t the point of the post. The point was to ridicule the changes, as they reinforce her uselessness in a fight, so you may as well spawn camp cuz you can’t really contribute once the team fight begins

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Shiro… its the same thing…

+150 is the same as 1.50 x her base rate…

+170 is the same as 1.70 x her base rate…

if her base rate is 10m/s, adding 50% gives 15m/s. Again, base rate is 10m/s, adding 70% gives 17m/s.

This is equal to +150 giving base rate 10m/s1.5= 15m/s, same for +170 giving 10m/21.7=17m/s… it is exactly the same…

And to Deykar… your math is just wrong, that is not the way you calculate percentages…

8,25/9,625 = 0.860~ in other words about 14%…

Is it that hard to understand her stealthed movement is only about 12-15% different? You do not subtract to see a percentage difference relative to base, its comparing top speed before and after the nerf…

If you want to retreat into the value multiplier itself, then yes 25% is the drop as factor, but that is not the same things as the real effect on her stealthed speed difference, she is not 25% slower, no more than 15%…

5.5+50% movement speed
means 5.5 + 5.5(50%) = 5.5 + 2.75 so 8.25 movement per second

my math isn’t wrong