Nerf Soldier's healing by 90%


#21

While the game spirals out of control, the forums hits it’s golden age of banter.

It’s a good time to be on here.


#22

rein has more pickrate and the same winrate…

is he op too?


#23

It’s basically +20 extra HP after Brig stops hitting stuff.


#24

:rofl:

Listen you’re right her damage needed to be nerfed. But she got nothing in return. Literally less than one heal per second increase. If you wanna gut her damage fine. But make her more of a support then.


#25

So, are you suggesting that Soldier heal his team AoE just by damaging? Are you suggesting that his Biotic Field be changed to instantly heal one person and grant them armor?


#26

yes, but that’s the only thing people seem to focus on, instead what the actual buff is.


#27

51.69 does not equal 55.07


#28

I’m suggesting that they do something to make her more supportive. You can’t just take away 90% of one aspect of someone’s kit and give them nothing in any other part.


#29

Even if this thread is actually about Brigitte being nerfed, she is a completely different role who does a lot for a support. I’m sure the devs will tweak her a bit more if her changes aren’t doing well, but we’ll see once she hits live.


#30

but as i said

the higher the pickrate, the more it gets equalized towards 50% winrate,

for example, if we have a hero with 100% pickrate, their winrate will be 50% why?

because theres always one in every team, one loses, one wins,

sure, im giving an extimist example, but one hero having three to four times the pickrate of another will probably change something


#31

Her healing buffs aren’t a joke, it gives her more healing and up time, ie: harder to kill.

I’m not saying these changes make her perfect, but they are a step in the right direction.


#32

Honestly was on PTR when the “Cant bash through barriers” nerf came out but the damage nerf isnt. In every match Brig lost. Not with a little bit but emberrassingly steamrolled in every second matches. If someone cannot play against that then he is the problem.

Okay, Bash needed to be toned down, but 5 damage? “Is this an out of season April fools joke?” Why do we needed a Russian Roulette-alike Sleep Dart? Not to mention that she can not combo anymore. 110 damage, and try to sling your hammer twice before the one who shes intended to counter presses LShift.

Im not even close to be a Brig main but everyone with a little common sense can say that its an overnerf.


#33

I hope so. Having bash not go through shields was great, both for the tanks and anyone who knows how t stay behind them. But she was still able to deal with Tracer before she could recall and come back at full health. Then on top of the barrier change they murdered the rest of her damage without adding anything even slightly useful to the support aspect of her kit.


#34

Give him a shield, a stun and give some big knockback to helix rockets, then sure, it would be a fair comparison


#35

But think about how her passive works. It’s always refreshing already when the team is fighting. So this change literally does nothing but add 0.667 hps.


#36

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

They aint picking on brig at all now are they??

She nows has the exclusive positions in this game as:

-The only character in the game whose secondary melee attack is blocked by shields.
(Whip shot is her flail, obviously melee, but game calls it projectile so it can be blocked, ok sure)

-The only character whose charge attack is blocked by shields.

-The only char in the game with a hard range limit to their attacks.

-The only char in the game whose melee attack/charge attack essentially doesnt do damage. (When most other charge attacks are OHK)

I made the right choice maining torb this season, lol.


#37

Totally. They even buffing Molten Core in PTR. lol


#38

you… you don’t seem to realize what makes brigitte overtuned.
Yes, she has weaknesses. That being range and… uh… range.
The only two heroes that properly hard counter her are phara and junkrat, but junkrat is kinda bad right now and pharah is situational… and her splash damage was nerfed.

Brigitte does too much and has too much value in her kit, regardless of skill. So they wised up and decided that she shouldn’t be a frontline brawler dps that can put pressure on anyone getting close.
It’s true that she has a range weakness, but she has a shield to help her safely closing distance and she’s nearly unbeatable at her range.
The point is not that she has no weaknesses, but that her strenghts FAR outweights them

ps: torb imho is secretly really powerful, it’s just that people still can’t bring themselves to play it. Like, his ult is a powerful goats stopper and its getting a buff.


#39

she got a slight buff to her healing

heres the secret about nerfing problem heros

youd don’t give the same power you took back in other areas, that doesn’t fix the problem, it just shifts it.


#40

She did get a slight buff, you’re right. A buff of literally less than one heal per second… to offset a 90% damage nerf. Just like what I wrote in the OP. Think about how ridiculous that kind of “balance change” would be for soldier, because the numbers are exactly the same as what they’re doing to Brig.