people who think moira and brig are issues are just dps genji mains who think the whole roster shouldn’t be able to counter them
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Dude, you are talking to a T500 player, and telling him he doesn’t understand how the game works.
Maybe it is your bed time, don’t you think?
Top 500 doesn’t inherently mean they know how the game works or why meta’s are the way they are. All players are subject to bias and we’ve seen it countless times with streamers and pro’s alike. Being good with broken hero’s only shows you’re able to play a broken hero effectively. Nothing more or nothing less.
And just to further prove the point:
The dude thinks sigma is broken.
and sym.
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Im not a Genji main. I didn’t play that hero much at all, and never competitively.
Do you believe a person must be biased in every post he writes?
Impressive… everything you said was wrong.
GOATS countered the double sniper comp, THE meta where the most ppl quit overwatch. GOATS had enough protection to handle the Widow/Hanzo spam.
I could explain much more… but honestly… if you struggle right now against Moira or Brig you shouldnt play DPS or should adapt and improve your gameplay.
funny because i’ve been 4500 with a hero pool of mccree genji soldier zarya before role queue
this was just a hanzo account for fun, and brig was literally a must pick, so you’re so dead wrong
Those heroes kinda just pushed the healing bar higher.
Effectively hurting sustained dmg.
regardless if you really think Moira / Brig are issues in the game’s current state and not
- high amount of dps power creep
- the fact that sustain has been globally nerfed along with shields making tank and support players feel even more unimpactful
Then clearly your priorities are not right. Imagine thinking brig and moira are issues in the game when these two MAJOR issues exists. But lol no its okay, lets just continue to go after supports like moira and brig because CLEARLY they are huuuge problems
smh this community 
support powercreep caused goats, and was the first issue.
and tank is the hard carry role.
sorry to inform you that you’re dead wrong
lol imagine thinking goats is even relevant now and imagine thinking tanks is the hard carry role 
In the NEW 2-2-2 overwatch system where supports got GREATLY nerfed along with TANKS and dps have been buffed to RIDICULOUS levels
cough mccree
cough ashe
cough genji
Because of all these reasons combined, dps is clearly the most impactful role with the most carry potential and games often go down to the bottom line of who’s dps is better
Sorry to inform you that you’re delusional if you think tanks are hard carriers and not DPS
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Well here’s season 12, the start of goats on Ladder.
https://www.esportstales.com/overwatch/ranked-hero-tier-list-meta-report-october-season-12
Here’s Brigitte’s pick rate in season 12 in GM.
https://i.imgur.com/GdX2PA4.png
And here’s Brig’s pick rate in season 13 in GM.
https://i.imgur.com/QIHtZOM.png
So. No. She wasn’t. You have no clue what you’re talking about.
And just for arguments sake. Here she is in season 15 GM.
https://i.imgur.com/KeuE2EH.png
Being in the bottom 10 least picked hero’s in GM.
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low elo console player, tells a top20 player he’s delusional
just lol
Well, I am a low rank console player that agrees with you. So??? If I have no idea what I am talking about, but you feel the same way, clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Checkmate. 
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sigma is a must pick in high elo along with brig.
you literally are delusional
Lol is that your argument?
Imagine thinking tanks hard carry games. DPS is now the most impactful role. This is not the goats era anymore. Things have GREATLY changed with 2-2-2 and I’m not sure if you even noticed that shields and sustain have been so globally nerfed and DPS globally buffed to enable DPS carry / play much harder than before
also just because you’re a widow main who can aim doesn’t mean that not you’re not delusional about the way the game works now. Just keep snipping buddy
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Flanking not being nerfed when it was OP caused Moira / Brig.
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7 and 8% pick rate is must pick now, apparently. And not just, you know, the standard meta pickrate’s for off tank and off dps ever since 2/2/2 became a thing.
Yeah, they’re meta right now, in a game that requires 2 tanks and 2 supports at all times but with incredibly limited options for filling those roles. In fact less than half of that of dps hero selection. They’re 8% picked. Genji is currently at 4%. They’re actually in proportion to the meta dps, which is a scary thought considering dps have 17 options for that role.
You’re projecting.
I think I’ve more than proven my point now.
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If you want to go back further, they refused to tone down Tracer and Genji, released Brig/Moira, then Jeff/Geoff blamed the community for it =_=“
Hindsight is of course 20:20 (though even then not everyone agrees what has done wrong each step), but it’s such a shame we can’t see the developer internal monologue of how they’ve gone about each map, hero release and balance updates 
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Why does everyone think that moira hard counters dive? Moira gets only slightly more use in gm+ then she ever did, which isnt much. Truthfully moira is only a danger to a flanker that is not attacking her or doesnt intend to do so. Any decent flanker that dives moira will kill her easily. In addition, brig’s only really use is dropping packs on dps. shield bash is great if your team is smart enough to turn around and kill the flanker otherwise you are likely going to die to anyone decent.
i was more talking about it dying like you or i are dying. we are, but it will take 60 to 70 years