You mean people are higher rank in the role they primarily focus on?
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They donāt have the mechanics to climb on dps, theyāre boosted by supports bloated kits/ broken ultimateās. You put a hitscan main on Zen/ Ana and theyāll frag.
As their team dies around them.
Over the years there have been several high ranking DPS streamers who proclaimed that support was easy and they were going to show how easy it is to climb on support.
Only to miserably fail and have to walk those statements back.
This is especially true on Mercy, who has put her fair share of even pros in their place.
So show us oh great and mighty AKJ. Show us what others could not.
If itās so easy, you should have no problems.
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No hitscan main wants to play Mercy, holding down m1 and m2 easiest hero in gaming. If they reworked Mercy by removing rez for a damage ability and removing damage boost for damage orbs iād show you how to play Mercy.
But Mercy is easy, so no āifsā here. Come on, prove your point. If she is as easy, as you claim, you should get high rank in no time.
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Wanting vs. Not wanting wasnāt the argument.
Donāt move the goal post.
The argument was supports are easy and have inflated rank.
I offered a counter argument that even high ranking DPS players have recorded their efforts to prove the ease of the support role, and have failed.
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Yep I agree, no support player wants to be food for another role.
I know people are touchy when a support can do anything, but they must be able to defend themselves.
Yes I know some supports have mobility, but we just need to look at dive to see what happened to those supports.
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If supp players want more mobility- fine, go for it.
- but you canāt also have high heals, ridiculous sustain, high dmg only to then add more mobility. It doesnāt make sense.
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Yes, you can have high heals and sustain. Itās literally why you are here.
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Healing is going down. The devs already are looking at different ways to lower healing.
That gives plenty of room for mobility.
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Exactly. Lucio and Moira have good mobility but are balanced around that. You give Ana or Zen mobility and they become broken.
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Chances are it will conveniently be forgotten about.
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if it really goes that way then by all means, im with it
Lose the āquad damage on low lifeā portion of the beam and she would be fine.
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what I clearly said is with additional class mobility on top of what we have now. That would be beyond broken.
No, mobility is for yourself. Heals and sustain are for allies.
Itās about as broken, as DPS having both high damage and mobility. Which isnāt something unheard of, is it?
Or are we going to end up with supports able to reach teammate in whatever circle of hell they are, but unable to get them outā¦and supports, that can actually save people, but only if said people are dying right next to them.
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At this point, I think most support players who were unhappy with their role have stopped bothering to voice their opinions and either moved onto another game, or swapped to a different role like the DPS. Pretty much the same thing that has happened with the tank playerbase before they all left (if there was any substantial amount of tank playerbase to begin with).
I still think that supports donāt have it that bad compared to tanks. But at the same time, a boring role is still a boring role and people will inevitably leave if it stays that way.
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Itās not that itās boring, itās that you always have only part of what you need.
Where DPS are allowed to be self-sufficient heroes, that have all necessary things in one package, as support you do not have that.
Mercy and Ana are two extremes of support spectrum - one can reach you nearly anywhere, but is unable to save you, another has great support capabilities, but one step outside of her LoS and teammate is lost cause. Itās not how it should be.
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They might as well delete all heroes and leave just tracer on the roster.
Geoff just doesnāt seem to care about what it feels like to deal with heroes like Tracer.
Perhaps heās doing this intentionally to put the game down ASAP.
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yes im well aware- but all remaining supps that want added mobility cant keep the same power lvls they have. So a bit less heals as someone said above with + mobility is acceptable.