(ML7) Future Supports Need Mobility

[Cleopatra-21937]

Conspiracy theory time - Geoff is long-term DPS main and uses his position to exact revenge for all kills he failed to make.

[Beesǃ-2610]

Agreed. Give Ana the ability to wallride.

@Cleopatra-21937

Where DPS are allowed to be self-sufficient heroes

Ehhh not entirely true. DPS still need a lot of enabling from their team to do their job, there’s not a lot of DPS that can go true lone wolf without a lot of skill. Tracer is probably the only one I can think of.

[Jake-1493]

@AKJ-11308

3 blinks and recall isn’t bloated?

I don’t think you know what bloated means. Blink is a single ability. Tracer’s kit is extremely simple. She can blink 3 times, and rewind time. And shoot. Nothing else. No traits.

[Azrael-13313]

@Cleopatra-21937

Conspiracy theory time - Geoff is long-term DPS main and uses his position to exact revenge for all kills he failed to make.

Who also has a distinct cowboy fetish.

All those patch notes say he spends a lot of time thinking about cowboys.

[Heinstar-6822]

Tracer isn’t overtuned. She’s just inherently OP compared to other heroes just like how brig still seems to stay relevent in higher rank no matter how many nerfs you give to her

If tracer is wrecking other DPS heroes with ease to the point where the DPS players need to swap to Cassidy themselves to deal with Tracer. Just how much more annoying do you think it is for supports? The answer is a lot more, especially if you’re not getting any peels from your teammates. Which is typical in solo queue ranked.

[CelestialElf-11829]

@Cleopatra-21937

Conspiracy theory time - Geoff is long-term DPS main and uses his position to exact revenge for all kills he failed to make.

I’ve long contended he has a poster of Hanzo over his bed… it’s the only explanation for the gross favoritism shown that particular kit. It’s so easy to get kills on with a modicum of aim that I can’t shake the feeling of cringe when I play it…

[Waffle-13883]

I think you missed his point. He’s saying that supports always complain about how OP and easy it is to play dps heroes. But they generally suck at playing those DPS heroes

[Waffle-13883]

There’s no way she’s getting her damage increased to 110 per shot, that would be insanely OP. Where did you hear that

[yffyffyffy-2596]

i think ana bap zen will be trash in ow2 and on purpose. i think they want all supports to play like mercy/moira/brig/lucio because there is way more players who only want to play that style of play. they have zero interest in having to aim. it will be easier for q times and game balance if they change all supports to fit the style of play of the majority of support players.
ml7 should look at moving to dps and give up on support.

[EvelUp-1190]

@Waffle-13883

There’s no way she’s getting her damage increased to 110 per shot, that would be insanely OP. Where did you hear that

https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague/clip/NastyDaintyEggnogBabyRage-H2yWy5yoSM3PMKoz?lang=fi

[Cleopatra-21937]

They still will be in demand, because people still would want actual healing and actual utility, not unfunny parody of both. It’s just playing them, that would suck.

[Poytheon-1466]

@Fragehardt-1291

I watched this earlier today. I was inclined to agree with his point of DLC heroes having bloated kits, making OG heroes obsolete. I think adding heroes to the game with really cool kits that are over the top is actually fine, as long as they revamp the old ones to be more in line with that too. The problem is that they don’t do that.

Blizz can’t win with this awful community. If they revamp old heroes people will complain “omg this isn’t the same hero anymore, you’re deleting them from the game” and cry for reverts

[EvelUp-1190]

People are always going to have problems.

Maybe they can’t put food on the table tonight, or maybe they bought the wrong brand of yogurt. Depending on their situation, people can be just as vocal or quiet about both.

But some problems are better to have than others.

[Cleopatra-21937]

@Fragehardt-1291

I think adding heroes to the game with really cool kits that are over the top is actually fine, as long as they revamp the old ones to be more in line with that too. The problem is that they don’t do that.

They should go for quality, not quantity. And revamping old ones is generally bad idea - players may not love playstyle you want to push them into.

New heroes are “bloated”, because they are used as bandaid for problems, rather than fixing said problems.

[dag-12162]

@FrolickAX-1298

instead of supports who are going to spend half the match walking back from spawn.

Most dps die 7+ times per 10. Most supports die like, 4-5 times per 10…

Dps die literally twice as much as any support.

[ChonkGorilla-1358]

@AKJ-11308

Immortality, rez on cooldown Mercy pocket, nano are way more oppressive.

Go play Valorant already.

[CelestialElf-11829]

Really wish we’d get the MEKA Squadron Support hero Overlord in a Mech with hover ability… nice change for the game and a good pretext for mobility.

[EvelUp-1190]

Were ML7’s Zenyatta experimental changes for the same reasons as his rant here?

All the more reason for the devs to reconsider adding experimental Zen. Weaker discord for less tank nuking, more harmony versatility for dynamic gameplay, and floaty Zen as a mobility substitute.

[FrolickAX-1298]

@dag-12162

Dps die literally twice as much as any support.

i will say that this is possibly due to said dps that die so much being flankers, which mean they usually have movement cooldowns to get back from spawn and then to dive into a fight.

[Hyphen-21921]

You know things are not black or white in this universe right? that nuance exist?

Also you realise that your flankers could be doing the same so its a trade off right? Again, IDK where this “Supports should be able to do everything” comes from and everything you just said can be mirrored, and the team who is more effective at doing that will win consistently.

So NO. Supports DO NOT need more mobility than anyone else, specially not more than DPS because they can do way way way way more than them.

There is Effective Range, Mobility, Damage, Healing and CC … and spoiler alert you cant have everything. Just like Lucio : He has mobility, but has to choose between that or healing. Its called game balancing and in 2022 you should be able to realise that you cant give everything to supports. They have to LACK something.