Mercy's ultimate

[KulstorEbrou-1130]

Valk needs reworked.

A Valkyrie is a BA riding in on a horse and going to take names and souls.

That means Mercy needs the staff in one hand, and the pistol in the other.

In support of fun, absurd, and amazing,
#DualWieldingMercy

[Megadodo-11847]

I’ve been lurking on the forums since mass rez was removed (I don’t generally comment because I like to absorb information from both sides) and the only thing that has been constant in this whole mess is you and Revert bickering on every Mercy thread you happen to find each other on.

Revert has their own opinions on mass rez and you have yours and in 2 years neither of you have changed those opinions. All y’all manage to do is frustrate everyone else who actually wants to have a discussion.

I don’t agree that mass rez should come back either and yeah these topics can get annoying but they’re not nearly as rampant as they were so I’m not getting worked up about it.

If my asking if you get tired of repeating yourself made you feel like you had to “defend” yourself then I’m not sure what to tell you.
I apologize if this comes across as harsh but every Mercy thread I’ve clicked on recently has been derailed by one of y’all (or in this threads case, because after 2 years people are used to you both starting stuff, someone mentioned y’all) and it’s exhausting.

I find it odd that this complaint comes to me, when the initiator of such discussions is rarely if ever me

[Cleopatra-21937]

Valk needs reworked.

A Valkyrie is a BA riding in on a horse and going to take names and souls.

That means Mercy needs the staff in one hand, and the pistol in the other.

In support of fun, absurd, and amazing,
#DualWieldingMercy

Here is simple way to make Valkyrie work:

• one beam, with 120 hps;
• also provides CC immunity for both teammate and Mercy.
• duration reduced from 15 s to 8.

[KulstorEbrou-1130]

I was mostly goofing off.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Even your goofing off produced more useful version of Valkyrie

To be fair, it’s not hard to come up with useful changes for ult, that tries to be multiple things at once, while still allowing only one at a time.

[RevertMercy-1819]

@Egoist-11694

The problem with Mercy is that pretty much all other healers are equal to her + ability to defend themselves. This is why people would prefer picking other healers. If i can have as good healing as mercy with a more potential defense, why would I choose mercy?
Especially that her new ultimate is now very much similar to Zen and Lucio in terms of the idea. The problem is that Mercy isn’t special except for her res.

This,

I feel that it would be nice if Valkyrie had something added to it to give it a bit more agency. Whether that is through a second Rez charge, a burst heal, or a new ability added to her ultimate altogether, I believe that something that gives her some more impact would be an amazing change.

@Egoist-11694

What I think Mercy needs is either bringing back her res ultimate, or give her a passive ability that has a cooldown of 10-15 seconds. This passive is, when being hit, Mercy doubles that damage taken and projects it as healing for herself and the team surrounding her.
So it’s just the opposite of Brigitte, instead of damage done to healing. It’s damage taken to healing.
This will allow her to escape without dying easily unless the passive is on cooldown. Also, it helps her to be more creative and strategic.

Indeed, I believe that that Mercy would benefit from a revert of Mass Rez, but also with tweaks (I had a rework idea on how something like this would work, essentially a swap of Valk and Rez, speaking of which). With how far we’ve gone in both the amount of heroes, the patches in the game, and other mechanics added today that haven’t existed back then, I feel that bringing it back wouldn’t be a problem. Especially so with modern checks like LOS and damage reduction instead of invincibility.

Your passive idea is an interesting one as well. I definitely wouldn’t mind playing around with some type of “damage converted to healing” mechanic. Sounds like fun.

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~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Megadodo-11847]

Whether that is through a second Rez charge

Indeed, I believe that that Mercy would benefit from a revert of Mass Rez

Give that mass rez was the very worst power ever granted to any hero in the history of the game of Overwatch, I dont think it is a good idea to re-introduce any form of non-single rez into the game

[RevertMercy-1819]

Even your goofing off produced more useful version of Valkyrie

To be fair, it’s not hard to come up with useful changes for ult, that tries to be multiple things at once, while still allowing only one at a time.

Beat me to it, I literally saw the post and was like “you know, that actually sounds like a lot more fun than her current ultimate.” I also like your 120hp / single beam + CC immunity idea, if I must say.

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~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Qwazi-2242]

I do not claim opinions as factual

And I can back you up on this. Your “factually” is always accurate and it’s been a while since I’ve seen you use it. I’ve never seen you use it inaccurately, only in ways I personally don’t agree with, but that’s my problem…

[Squashpup-1997]

because their queen SongLilac or whatever he name was had a break down and now they don’t have a central figure to tell them what to say and when to spam anymore.

They’ll come back in force once they find a new one to rally around.

[Qwazi-2242]

and now they don’t have a central figure to tell them what to say

Who are they? Also, direct shaming people is against the CoC, so I suggest you edit your post or remove it before the forum mods notice.

[Megadodo-11847]

I do not claim opinions as factual

And I can back you up on this. Your “factually” is always accurate and it’s been a while since I’ve seen you use it. I’ve never seen you use it inaccurately, only in ways I personally don’t agree with, but that’s my problem…

Much appreciated…

[Megadodo-11847]

because their queen SongLilac or whatever he name was had a break down and now they don’t have a central figure to tell them what to say and when to spam anymore.

They’ll come back in force once they find a new one to rally around.

The mantle of leadership of the revertmercy/reworkmercy groups (same thing, different packaging) was passed via twitter messages from a certain toxic and entitled metuber shortly after the forum raid to individuals owning twitter accounts “aliastitanium” and “revertmercysays”. I do not know with certainty if these two twitter accounts are owned by individuals with ow forum accounts or what said forum accounts would be

[True0Neutral-1564]

The mantle of leadership of the revertmercy/reworkmercy groups (same thing, different packaging) was passed via twitter messages from a certain toxic and entitled metuber shortly after the forum raid to individuals owning twitter accounts “aliastitanium” and “revertmercysays”. I do not know with certainty if these two twitter accounts are owned by individuals with ow forum accounts or what said forum accounts would be

Can you…can you not? There’s no “leadership” or any of it being passed to anyone. There’s no conspiracy and to claim there is one is just, baffling. People have opinions. Sometimes those opinions match up. That doesn’t mean all of said opinions are identical or lead by any one person. What you’ve said reads like something one would trip over on boards worshiping Q-anon or something.

[Megadodo-11847]

The mantle of leadership of the revertmercy/reworkmercy groups (same thing, different packaging) was passed via twitter messages from a certain toxic and entitled metuber shortly after the forum raid to individuals owning twitter accounts “aliastitanium” and “revertmercysays”. I do not know with certainty if these two twitter accounts are owned by individuals with ow forum accounts or what said forum accounts would be

Can you…can you not? There’s no “leadership” or any of it being passed to anyone. There’s no conspiracy and to claim there is one is just, baffling. People have opinions. Sometimes those opinions match up. That doesn’t mean all of said opinions are identical or lead by any one person. What you’ve said reads like something one would trip over on boards worshiping Q-anon or something.

What I described occurred on twitter as I described it

I have no interest in QAnon or conspiracy theories in general, and neither is involved in the statement I made

[QuizzyBunny-2512]

We really need to stop talking about some Mercy mains like they are the Illuminati or something…

I’m the only one who has openly admitted to be recruiting for my cult.

The Bunny Cult

[Megadodo-11847]

QB: I don’t know with certainty if the owners of the two twitter accounts i mentioned in my earlier statement are or were Mercy mains

[QuizzyBunny-2512]

Then why speculate? Let’s stick to what we know. I recall you being a fan of facts.

[True0Neutral-1564]

I have no interest in QAnon or conspiracy theories in general, and neither is involved in the statement I made

Your statement, is, factually, a conspiracy theory.

[Megadodo-11847]

Then why speculate? Let’s stick to what we know. I recall you being a fan of facts.

The passing of the mantle of leadership of these two more or less identical antiMercy groups is and was not speculation…this happened just as I described