🔘 Mercy Needs an R Ability Instead of an HPS Buff

[N7Warrior-1327]

Yeah…speed boost… That’s it. I wouldn’t want to actually “change” anything not with her at launch.

[Lily-23958]

They already did a complete new ability button for Symmetra 3.0, the “F” interact key for using her teleporter. They also used it for the small reworks for Torbjörn and Sombra. So I dont see a problem making an “R” ability for Mercy only, maybe even using it for other heroes or new heroes later on too.

[Ryan-111758]

“R”? As in “on reload”? Is this MOBA? (yeah, I didn’t read this, so sorry if it’s answered).

Yes, because she currently doesn’t have a reload on her staff so the “R” key is unused. The Devs said they tried this on other heroes with no reload before like Reinheart and Hanzo while reworking him so it’s possible for Mercy!

Yeah…speed boost… That’s it. I wouldn’t want to actually “change” anything not with her at launch.

Wait do you think Speedboost is bad or is that the only part you like? :o

So I dont see a problem making an “R” ability for Mercy only, maybe even using it for other heroes or new heroes later on too.

Yeah they said they tested one on Rein where he pressed R while his shield was up to do something and they tested one for Hanzo!

[Hotaru251-1596]

If they give her E valkyrie I’d rather it just increase her healing/aoe beams and reset her GA cooldown and increase it’s speed or CD for a few seconds instead of granting freeflight.

totally fine with this.

i mean with hitscan and snipers popular flying is typically lethal anyways.

[Arcadius-11555]

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[Jeeyell-1991]

Instead of R, it could be Melee that activates it. Melee would offer the same reward at the cost of quickly coming out of cover. Melee would be more friendly to console players, too, right?

Instead of holding R (or Melee) down, it’s just a button press, and for a Moira/DVa-type resource, you simply release the heal to stop spending instead of the button.

I personally would rather her have a HoT effect on staff Melee. Would offer her a boost to single target, as well as give a little bit of multi healing outside of her ult. Let the HoT be placed on herself if she melees an enemy with the staff.

I also think it would be cool to see her abilities change based on her weapons. Her regular dash and res, with a Melee/R boost/HoT while using her staff. And something offensive for Shift and/or E while using her gun. Let’s say, a ground-flying sprint for shift and a single double magazine that shoots 1.5-2x fast or something for E. (I’m bad at making abilities.)

An additional end result there would be more viability in Deathmatch, kind of like Ana’s self ult. As it is, Mercy’s abilities are 100% useless in that gamemode. At the very least something should change for her there.

[N7Warrior-1327]

Wait do you think Speedboost is bad or is that the only part you like? :o

No I think it’s very good…just like discord.

But even with barely a portion of discord power…mercy is not like … Actual garbage right?

I would make her a specialist pocket.

There’s no reason for Lucio to monipolize speed. I would make mercy have a third beam form of fire that was a solo target 30% speed boost.

Or make dmg boost “performance boost” and add a 15% speed boost to it.

Making her more impactful in her aggro choices since she would not just control the sustain of her ally, but their maximum movement potential.

She has ga…she has movement…yet offers allies none of this. Why? She’s the sole hero designed for it.

[Ryan-111758]

I personally would rather her have a HoT effect on staff Melee. Would offer her a boost to single target, as well as give a little bit of multi healing outside of her ult. Let the HoT be placed on herself if she melees an enemy with the staff.

That could be cool, as if she has her own Zen harmony orb to throw out for a bit. Would allow her to choose from enhancing her single target output or having a bit of multi target healing, would certainly increase her decision making.

I also think it would be cool to see her abilities change based on her weapons. Her regular dash and res, with a Melee/R boost/HoT while using her staff. And something offensive for Shift and/or E while using her gun. Let’s say, a ground-flying sprint for shift and a single double magazine that shoots 1.5-2x fast or something for E. (I’m bad at making abilities.)

I always thought it’d be funny if she flew at enemies when her pistol was out xD

An additional end result there would be more viability in Deathmatch, kind of like Ana’s self ult. As it is, Mercy’s abilities are 100% useless in that gamemode. At the very least something should change for her there.

YES lol that’d be amazing!

[Ryan-111758]

But even with barely a portion of discord power…mercy is not like … Actual garbage right?

I would make her a specialist pocket.

There’s no reason for Lucio to monipolize speed. I would make mercy have a third beam form of fire that was a solo target 30% speed boost.

Or make dmg boost “performance boost” and add a 15% speed boost to it.

Making her more impactful in her aggro choices since she would not just control the sustain of her ally, but their maximum movement potential.

She has ga…she has movement…yet offers allies none of this. Why? She’s the sole hero designed for it.

100% agree. Couldn’t have worded it better myself.

[ƘƗNǦ-1408]

1000000%. This idea sounds super fun and useful ^^ Honestly if I had to choose between res and this, I would choose this. AT this point though I feel like they are purposefully ignoring Mercy/supports at this point. With all the recent changes and their response to major complaints, it’s pretty clear they saw how bad Mercy was. But they probably don’t want to make any changes until OW 2 is my guess. :((

[Megadodo-11333]

to OP: I personally would not want to see such an ability that not only overcomplicates her kit, but also makes what I feel to be the worst ultimate she’s ever had in the existence of her time in the game, worse. Ergo, outside of a flat 55-60hp buff no questions asked, I hope such a change to her healing or button layout is never made to her current abilities.

[VclScore-2697]

Actually, remove damage boost because it’s a problematic ability that messes up break-points and creates co-dependent and cheeky combos (Ashemercy, pharmercy etc.) and give her and alternate fire that is active and skill based.

Also boost Valkyrie pistol damage from 20 to 25.

[Megadodo-11847]

to OP: I personally would not want to see such an ability that not only overcomplicates her kit, but also makes what I feel to be the worst ultimate she’s ever had in the existence of her time in the game, worse. Ergo, outside of a flat 55-60hp buff no questions asked, I hope such a change to her healing or button layout is never made to her current abilities.

I am as always gladdened to see you, a fellow megadodo, when I thought I was the last of my species…but I am saddened we do not see eye to eye on such things as whether Mercy does or does not need a buff

I absolutely do not feel she needs a buff of any kind

[Saber-22958]

I personally don’t want E valkyrie as I feel like it would heavily lower her skill ceiling and ruin her core gameplay of good GA usage and mechanics. It’d be a free get of jail card for Mercy players who are dove or attacked and don’t know how to GA correctly. If they give her E valkyrie I’d rather it just increase her healing/aoe beams and reset her GA cooldown and increase it’s speed or CD for a few seconds instead of granting freeflight.

Thats true but Valk is the only thing that really enables battle Mercy. In fact I’d rather they make Valk her E but remove chain beams and focus on the single target healing boost and unlimited ammo/movement so you can dive those pesky little Widows. I know you still can with superjump but it still only works if allies are right below her

[Leksa-21232]

This would also make Mercy a lot better in higher ranks, while not affecting lower Ranks as much as a falt HPS buff would, which is exactly what she needs. I dig it.

[Ryan-111758]

This would also make Mercy a lot better in higher ranks, while not affecting lower Ranks as much, which is exactly what she needs. I dig it.

Exactly the goal! Thanks

Thats true but Valk is the only thing that really enables battle Mercy. In fact I’d rather they make Valk her E but remove chain beams and focus on the single target healing boost and unlimited ammo/movement so you can dive those pesky little Widows. I know you still can with superjump but it still only works if allies are right below her

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1000000%. This idea sounds super fun and useful ^^ Honestly if I had to choose between res and this, I would choose this. AT this point though I feel like they are purposefully ignoring Mercy/supports at this point. With all the recent changes and their response to major complaints, it’s pretty clear they saw how bad Mercy was. But they probably don’t want to make any changes until OW 2 is my guess. :((

Thank you ;-;

[Karp-11238]

I really like the idea of giiving Mercy another ability to increase her utility, but it would make a lot more sense to have it be a 4 sec boost on a 10 sec cooldown rather than a resource bar. Having a resource bound to a reload/interact button would be very difficult to manage on a controller. It would require you to take your hand off the Right stick way too long, making it virtually impossible to aim for the duration of the ability.

[Lullabeii-1726]

Tbf, they could code it/add an option for it to stay on until tapped again.
Toggle option(?).

Like default GA, tap once and she go tap again while GA’s active and she go no mo.
They could also swap one of her beams to a simple on/off button press and move the resource to a trigger/bumper for console only. Tho that imo should be a player option.

I do agree that if it is only a press+hold it won’t function too well on console.

[Ryan-111758]

I really like the idea of giiving Mercy another ability to increase her utility, but it would make a lot more sense to have it be a 4 sec boost on a 10 sec cooldown rather than a resource bar. Having a resource bound to a reload/interact button would be very difficult to manage on a controller.

They could just do this:

Tbf, they could code it/add an option for it to stay on until tapped again.
Toggle option(?).

Since her beam and GA already have toggle options too.

They could also swap one of her beams to a simple on/off button press and move the resource to a trigger/bumper for console only. Tho that imo should be a player option.

^^^

[Lilith-12407]

This is something I can get behind.

New ability - R
Self Boost: Upon activating, Mercy’s primary heals for 60 HPS and her secondary fire provides +60% movement speed. Lasts for 6 seconds. Cooldown starts after the ability is over.
Cooldown: 10 seconds.

Also give her independent mobility.

1. A backwards dash would be nice (the opposite of Echo’s forward dash upon activating flight.)
   Input: Ability 1 (GA) when no one is in LoS

2. An option to fall faster while holding crouch.
   Input: Crouch while airbourne

3. Superjump recognized as a feature and not a bug.