There is something in Mercy’s kit that pretty much forces her to stand still. The player can choose to use E Rez, but in most circumstances I’d advise against it.
I find E-Rez and Valkyrie to be un-fun to use and quite unimpactful, myself.
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What game are you playing?
You don’t exactly stand still, right, but it feels like you are. There is not a lot of difference between standing still and rezing someone.
It’s impactful, definitely, bringing a teammate back alive will always be impactful. But the way you use it doesn’t. “Oh, Widow popprd our Widow, let me just stand behind the wall where no-one could possibly get to me in time and press E. Oh look at me, I’m having impact.”
Valk isn’t as bad, I used to have a lot of fun with it, but it just wore off. After you realise when to use it every time, it just feels plain.
If you enjoy every part of her kit, more power to you, I still enjoy her but I think she could be a lot better.
Being that team-reliant killed for me all joy. I can play to the best of my abilities, but if teammate simply can’t hit their shots with damage boost, or can’t dodge hard enough for 50 hps to be sufficient, all of that was for nothing.
It’s that awful feeling, that nothing you do can change situation for the better.
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That buff is completely reasonable and I have no argument against it. As long as it doesn’t involve mass res, 60 HPS, or making res less vulnerable, I’m ok with most Mercy buffs.
There is nothing in Mercy’s kit that causes/forces her to stand still
In my estimation, choosing to not use one of the most powerful utilities in the game when it is available and can help one’s team win is a poor decision
well, given the previous statement that indicates one does not use rez at all, I can certainly see how it would then be considered unimpactful
The original statement I replied to indicated that Mercy stands still
Personally, I feel like I (the Mercy character, rather) am moving when I am moving
I see a rather substantial difference between standing still and rezzing, myself
In one, no one is brought back from death, and in the other, there is a good chance that a teammate will be brought back form death
The way I use it?
What is wrong with the way that I use it such that it is not impactful?
Interesting. My thought processes at the time of a rez don’t resemble this at all. To each their own, I suppose.
The statement I originally replied to said “Rez and Valk is horrible”
I personally don’t equate “horrible” with “not bad”
“Better” is a judgement call.
Changes made to her that you’d consider making her better might be for some other players making her worse.
For example, one of many, many people think Nerfedbjorn is better than pre-rework Torbjorn. I accept and understand that many people feel this way, but for me, he is far, far worse off than he was before the rework. The same might well be true for any change made to Mercy
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Given that the game brings awful feelings for you, its probably a good thing you chose to move on to other games
If a game is no longer enjoyable, thats imo the right thing to do
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The cited instance of console shaming wasn’t on this thread, where the relevant conversation was being held. If you would like to cite an instance of console shaming on this thread, please do so–I’m fully willing to acknowledge it, as I myself play on console and don’t feel it’s appropriate–but accusing someone of console shaming because they did so on a different thread but haven’t on this thread really seems to just be seeking to pick a fight and to derail the threads by besmirching someone’s opinion rather than just addressing their arguments to counter their viewpoint, which should not be difficult for somebody if they have a tenable position and are willing to have a genuine conversation about it.
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Almost anything can be considered “shaming” if you’re ignorant enough.
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I corrected the original statement, is that a problem?
At the moment of rezzing, I feel like I’m standing still.
That has nothing to do with what I was saying though. You can literally stand still and rez, and you can move tiny bits and rez. You will always get the rez off, but regardless, it feels like standing still to me. It’s not about where you stand still on the map, or what you are doing, but the movement stays the same. The tiny bits that you can move don’t make a lot of difference to me.
“You” as in one. I’m pretty sure you knew that. “the way one uses it doesn’t feel impactful” is what I meant to say, kind of forgot a few words there, sorry for that.
I wasn’t telling you my thought process when rezzing , I was telling you how ridiculous I believe rez sonetimes is.
Again, I corrected it. Why is admitting fault something bad to you? Right now, I don’t like Valk, that’s why in the earlier statement I called it horrible. I took that back after remembering that in the beginning, I did have some fun with it, it just wore off. I don’t like it any more.
I know that, that’s why I’m stating my opinion on the forums. I know people disagree with me, I know people agree with me. It doesn’t matter to me, if Blizzard were to change Mercy, it would have to be for 1 balance or 2 what the majority wants.
There was a statement made in this thread that indicated that no one was saying a certain thing
I knew of an instance where exactly that certain thing was said
I supplied a link to where that certain thing was said
That is all
The statement made was also in the context of the conversation on this thread, which was the topic at hand when it was made, not a blanket statement to say that nobody on any thread console shames when discussing console differences. Taking this statement out of that context misconstrues its meaning. Had I wished to say that nobody has ever console shamed on any thread when discussing platform-specific differences, I would have stated so.
As I said, if you would like to provide evidence of someone console framing on this thread, I’d be more than happy to criticize it, as I am a console player and take issue with people doing that. That said, I have not seen console shaming on this thread.
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clarification: there was no misconstruing of meaning. a statement was made that no one was saying x, I knew of at least one instance where someone was saying x, and I provided it
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As stated, the statement to which you refer was made in context of a conversation on this thread. Disregarding this context alters the meaning of the statement to state something that was not stated, which is by definition misconstruction of meaning. Again, I emphasize that had I wished to say that nobody was console-shaming on any thread in which conversations about platform-specific differences was brought up, I would have explicitly stated so.
I find that said misconstruction is highly rude and deceitful, and is not unlike falsely attributing quotes to an individual. Given that you have previously criticized people for attempting to frame you as saying things you have not said, I find it highly curious that you do the same.
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clarifications:
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The statements I have made in this thread are neither rude nor deceitful
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The quoted items I have provided are direct quotes, not misattributed in any fashion
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I respond to statements that are actually stated, not statements that others wish they had made but actually haven’t.
I have previously clarified that I haven’t misconstrued any meaning, but given the repeated mention above, I reference this here
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Clarifications:
- Misconstruing an individual’s post to imply that they meant something other than what was meant is deceitful. You have done this, as described by point 2
- The quoted item was taken out of context of the rest of the post and the conversation which extended several posts prior to the post in question.
- You are responding to a statement of which you have misrepresented the meaning by taking it out of said context, and thus are responding to a statement that was not made, even if you wish that was the statement that was made.
Pehaps I should alter the following for you, from this:
to a less instigating response that better represents the situation
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The statements quoted above contain text that is attributed to me, but was not stated by me
I find this to be both deceitful and rude in the extreme
I ask that this statement be correctly attributed or removed immediately
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Above argument has gone on too long, I’m not a moderator here but I suggest you either finish it or message each other privately to sort it out. It’s not very fair to the OP to keep this going.
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One person is attacking
The other is merely defending themselves from said attacks, and would have no need to respond if it werent for the repeated attacks
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