OWL S3 starts on the 8th.
Clock is ticking Iām afraid.
No you can not have Mei being F tier just because you donāt want to bother to learn how to play against her.
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She might have been bad, but she has ALWAYS been oppresive.
Iāve always hated Mei more than sombra.
But the nerf clearly isnāt enough. Mei is played solely for multifreeze. That part hasnāt even been addressed.
Why is that clear when it hasnāt been on Live for even 1 day?
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Sheās been in the game for so long and now all of a sudden her ultimate is too strong?
Pierce I can see getting nerfs cuz they were buffs for a meta that no longer exists but at the same time, nerfing mei too much will just make her useless since she does such little damage. Her utility is all she brings.
Meis not even meta. I havenāt seen her dominating all games like forums seems to whine about, Iāve just been seeing her at a healthy pickrate for the first time after floating over a year in the bottom of pickrate and no one seems to understand that itās fine. Didnāt the devs even say recently that her pickrate is in middle?
Sure, a good mei CAN carry, but how often do you see a good mei? A good widow, Hanzo, even pharahs all the way up in mid masters on console are carrying games. Freeze is what annoys people about playing her. Chill with all the nerfs or youāll completely gut all utility characters and end up with nothing but a burst damage hero meta, and then whine on forums for the next year about it
āOmg I get killed before even being able to react to (burst instead of freeze)ā.
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Okay stop with this false terminology.
She doesnāt stun anyone on her primary. Freeze is a ramp up effect and, if she keeps the beam on you long enough, your frozen.
That period of escape you get has been widened, and her ability to secure a freeze on an enemy has been nerfed in a big way. This nerf is bigger then just a numbers change.
Donāt let your personal feelings about mei freezing you interfere with the fact that sheās been bad the majority of the gameās lifespan and has gotten appropriate nerfs to bring her power back where it needs to be brought down.
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Sheās been in this game for circa three years with the same ult that hasnāt received any changes other than its visuals afaik, and yet itās a guaranteed win? How come her statistics from her beginnings in overwatch to present day donāt support that? Why isnāt she used in the pro-scene nearly as much then? Why does Hanzo outshine her in nearly every area other than cc?
Or are you just making things up because you donāt like fighting her? 
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What? Are you even playing the same game as me? Iām playing Overwatch. And you?
A.K.A. Stun 
Sure you can call it whatever you want, but the important is that she completely remove you from the game for a moment (enough to die). Worst than Sombra BTW, which people complained so much.
Not enough. Try it in PTR. Multifreeze still a thing.
She has always been oppressive and was not played because of metas. A lot of people hated Mei from the beginningā¦ you seem to have short memoryā¦ the meme about the devil was strong.
So you want her to be completely useless eh?
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Firstly no she isnāt, wall is stronger.
Secondly widow is played for her gunā¦
Like that isnāt even a good argument.
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Putting an emoji next to the sentence doesnāt make you correct.
Stuns are instant, Meiās freeze isnāt.
Try again.
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a stun would be like McCreeās flash bang or sigmaās long distance rock or shield bash or earth shatter.
That is, the instant that ability collides with an enemy, they lose all movement and are unable to do anything until the stun is over.
Meiās primary does not stun you in that sense. It slows you down until youāre frozen. That slow effect has been nerfed, meaning you can get out easier. If you want to call it a stun, go ahead but thatās like calling boop a stun because it takes control away from you. It gives the wrong idea.
For her to completely remove you from the game, she would have to get within 10 meters of you, or use her ultimate, which is an ultimate and deserves to be strong.
Unless she sneaks up on you, walls you off, you make a misplay, or she otherwise outplays you, thereās no reason for you to be within 10 meters of mei, and if you are, there are many ways you can still survive the 1v1 such as bursting her down, forcing her to use cryo, get bubbled/ healed/ otherwise helped from your team, etc.
The narrative youāre trying to push is that mei is this incredibly strong monster that wins every engagement she has and has no possible counter at all. Iām sure you recognize this as false and are, instead, basing this off of a personal bias rather than an actual empirical concern for her balance.
For the sake of remaining civil, Iām going to ignore that personal insult.
People hate mei because she stops you from fighting back if you fail to deal with her in time. In order for her to even begin this engagement, she sacrifices meaningful damage and, in the world of 2/2/2, is competing for said damage with widow, Hanzo, etc.
Sheās always been hated because sheās annoying to fight but that doesnāt translate into being oppressive and overpowered. Those can be mutually exclusive terms. For example, around the beginning of overwatchās lifespan, people hated bastion and wanted him nerfed. Look where we are now, with him being the worst hero in the game. Heās annoying to fight, but nowhere near as oppressive as people wanted to make it seem, and the stats say the same thing about mei.
her MB1 puts her close enoguh for any dps to kill her.
her alt fire is the ONLY delayed projectile in game and hitting with it from afar should be rewarded with its dmg.
negates what mei isā¦
if u remvoe stun whats point of slow and miniscule dmg?
if you remove slow you wouldnt ever get stun.
cree, reaper (literally 1 shot a full hp mei at point blank), winston, and more can be in her range and kill her pretty ez as is.
its 400hpā¦its already able to be killed in under 3seconds. (and it only has a 5sec duration)
becasue invis has no counter playas u dont know where they areā¦
cryo is same as wraithform.
you know where they are and can react to when they are out of it.
the ONLY nerf that would not put her as useless is reverting the primary freeze to only hit 1 target.
you mean the ult with a loud notification shes using it, a travel time before it even activates and then a slow freeze build up?
unless u have zero map awareness you shouldnt be caught in this.
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The plat is strong in this one.
Just to clarify this, I heard it was because people would be able to jump in front of a target and stop the freeze on the target. Is that accurate?
Because if so, thatās teamwork. It was to remove teamwork and counterplay. If thatās a direction you think is healthy or aspirational for the game, then we have very different perspectives on it.
They should have let her keep the freeze time, and just cut her clip size in half
These are some severe nerfs, like 33% less duration is very harsh.