The changes theyâre looking for are the big stuff like defenderâs 3rd spawn on Gibraltar not having a floor.
Not balance changes, very few balance changes that have gone on PTR and never hit live are few and far between.
The only I can remember is Zenyatta discord through Barriers.
Even egregious offenders like 85% damage resist w/ 35% ironclad + Nanoboost Bastion got to live, and that was Hotfixed
It isnât a thing.
The combo isâŠ
Slow, headshot, last puff, 2 more headshots.
If you ARE going to Mei, do it right - have some pride god damn it.
If you start your right click while the freezing puff it still in flight, you can get 2 in from that alone.
If that hasnât done the job, you need to flick that wall just behind them so you can keep the fight running. They WILL be trying to back off after that.
on PTR the timings are MUCH narrower, so you will need to practice more.
On the other hand, they stood in the open in front of you for 2 seconds without cooldowns, a plan to get out and without their team.
You SHOULD kill them.
Gaba keeps comparing the cast time on Meiâs Icicle to the charge time on Hanzoâs LMB, but if Hanzo did 75/150 max damage (body/headshot), there would probably be fewer complaints about himâŠ
At my level right now, many players know how to counter my Mei. She is not as OP as you think. And her ult can be neutralized.
I have to use more icicles now because the enemy know how to stay away from my freeze range and shoot the crap out of me if I try to freeze them like that cowboy. Whenever they see Mei, the smart enemy team will disperse widely to negate my piercing spray advantage. Some change to Junk or Reaper to kill me at close range; alternatively go for snipers like Hanzo/Widow which Mei have a lot of disadvantage against. This is real weakness of Mei, she can do both but master of none.
Even better, the flying hero known as Pharah can shoot at me with impunity.
Wall tactic? Whenever I walled someone, his/her team will react very fast, destroying the wall or a monkey, ninja as some flying thing will vault over the wall to save the isolated hero. And it works. Winston is effective here.
Some tanks are smarter, they bait my wall then I sometimes mistimed it. So they can come in and destroy me during CD. It is a mind game.
Mei is not as overpowering as you think. She can be countered and made irrelevant.
Hi alt-account, lol.
This is the main thing I see about Mei. People being completely stupid and then crying because she won, even though any other DPS would have also won in that situation. Itâs the same has hugging the enemy McCree and whining about getting flashed and fanned.
When I wall tanks off, the DPS never shoot through the wall.
When I cryo, people usally just wander off
When I ult, the enemy are usually playing a non-mobile team against me.
For some reason people just refuse to counter Mei and then complain about her being OP. If a Pharah is there itâs all âletâs take a hitscanâ, if itâs a Mei itâs just âMei toxicâ in chat.
Oh yes, because flanking is not an option as Mei. Except for Pharah, element of surprise is big for the others.
Yeah, letâs play a KotH map and we see about that.
All abilities, against a primary fire. Yes, you can get away with it, 1 time. The next Mei will be knocking your door after you used it. Specially if there is another disruptive DPS, maybe Doomfist in your team.
You mean the shields that are so easily broken right now? Apart from Rein - which is the easier Tank to freeze since he is slow when his shield is up - the others will be without shield in no time.
You also forgot that Mei has a team 
When your team engage, Mei can win the team fight by freezing everyone and your team just kills the ones that Mei focus.
I want it to not slow down OR to not freeze at all. A stun in the primary fire, with no cooldown is non-sense.
No. Itâs easy to freeze people right now. In a fight with multiple people (which, hey, is what happen most of the time because this is a team based game) she will wreck the fight by taking out easily tanks and later the others.
Yes.
Yes that happens for sure LOL. Mei freezes you in the middle of a team fight. You are done. Your team lost because 5x6. Period. Itâs the same logic about Sombra, even worst.
That didnât work.
Yes, it builds up with slow. Thatâs one of my suggestion. Either remove the slow or remove the stun.
No. I stated that other heroes have it as well and itâs not a weakness. It is just a matter of getting used. Sniped far Pharahs and won battles against Widows multiple times with Mei.
While stalling the point for your team to come back, healing and waiting for your cooldown on Wall is gone so you can get out easily. Now if someone try to 1x6 with Mei thatâs just non-sense.
Except others agree with me, while you just made up something that no one agrees.
The one that started was not me, but I agreed with him. I only spoke about this once. I wanted to show people that this is not a drawback or weakness. Hanzo have it, Mei as well. Itâs a different play style.
Try playing tank maybe?
Without mobility options or an escape it really isnât.
Your team should punish any Mei stupid enough to do that.
The point is the WORST place to fight in almost every map.
You should fight from a position of advantage THEN get the point.
Just because eventually you want to stand somewhere, doesnât mean you want to RIGHT NOW.
Yes, you have been saved from your terrible positioning by an ability.
Donât plan to make bad positioning choices till it has cooled down.
Yes those. You have decided to take to her in close range. She has no shield break, as her damage is garbage. I am assuming you have a plan, involving junkrat maybe?
I have not, but in a team vs team fight, if one needs to hose you for 2 seconds in close range, and THAT is what you are worried about? She has to be in the open, and you because you are NOT running Mei have better shield break.
Its easy to freeze people who make bad choices right now.
You should not be one of them.
Because you stood out in a bad position for a couple of seconds with no escape.
Every DPS would have killed you in the same situation. They take LESS than 2 seconds to do so.
This nerf did a lot to make Wrecking Ball more viable vs double shelds, I think all thatâs left is to scale down Ice Wall to 300hp per pillar along with the rest of the shield nerfs.
Have seen and also did it multiple times. Got a lot of results. Yes I was punished a couple times, but when I can I always try. If the team is not super cohesive itâs free real state.
Oh yes⊠I guess we just lose when itâs overtime then? At some point you need to go to the point. Even a team in disadvantage, like 5x6 or 4x6, if they have a Mei, their chances of winning the fight is still high.
Mei will still get to you while your cooldown is runningâŠ
You are assuming too muchâŠ
Yes and thatâs not the only problem. The reward after 2 seconds is HUGE, but the slow already make it for good. You donât even need to stun someone with her primary to get value, you just need to tickle people and everyone is already slowed (now nerfed by not enough tho). She has too much value in the primary fire. At least multi freeze should be removed (and thatâs the bear limit).
See you in a team fight⊠Chaos reigns⊠you freeze anyone you want.
She will still crap on you. Like I said, her slow by it self is already oppressive enough to destroy the enemy team in a team fight.
mei nerfs are more than enough. she is adps with almost no dps. if you nerf her more she will be like sombra. stop complaining about dps that dont do dps and learn to aim from a distance. you have 2 heroes that can oneshot her.
I would prefer Mei with actual damage than a Slow + Stun. 
This nerf in a nutshell: Now I get frozen as tank 10 frames later.
Is not nearly as powerful as you think it is.
Yeah, they should just make her unplayable because I dislike her.
You clearly doesnât know what is unplayable.
Besides, I suggested stuff. Iâm not God to dictate things.
They actually should just rework her and remove stun once and for all.
⊠âI AM ROBOTWIZARDâ.
the movement starts.
You also have to think that small changes help to balance the game better. If they introduce to much at once, itâs hard to see what failed.
And you clearly donât know how to balance.
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