I guess that settles that then 
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Considering it takes her slower now since, her healing got nerfed to 50hps.
Yes.
Considering that change is being reverted, and this change is being added.
Yes, it’s a buff.
Didnt say it was not a buff, but its basically making it almost the same as it was before.
Why would someone argue that an increase in healing and a reduce in ult charge needed would not be a buff.
It doesn’t matter if it has been more than that two or ten patch cycles ago… it’s called buff or nerf in comparison to the last patch (the live version) and that’s it. You can call it a net nerf if in the same patch, something else gets reduced or something changes that overall decreases her capabilities but this patch only increases them compared to the previous cycle (which is the important part here).
Or would you argue because Ana had 80 damage two years ago, that her damage wasn’t buffed up from 60 to 70. It just doesn’t make sense to me to look at it as a buff or nerf if not comparing the upcoming changes to the live version.
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She wouldn’t need the ultimate cost reduction if they hadn’t unnecessarily nerfed her healing.
It is a buff but it’s a buff that’s partially reverting an idiotic nerf to begin with.
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Mercy “buff” 
So, by your logic (and your youtube mastah) roadhog’s tweak is also a nerf ? (Not going back to hook cd 6 sec and not reverting damages so, it is still overall a nerf from RH 1.0?)
Brilliant. Genuinely brilliant.
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It is by definition a buff ,doesn’t matter how you see it or how she was in a previous iteration ,otherwise mercy will never be ‘‘buffed’’ in your eyes because she will never be as powerful as she was when valk had just been released.
And if you’re going to say ‘‘but that was too long ago’’ then would you have preferred that they left mercy this way for a few more months before coming out with this buff ? because between that and getting the buff now ,it seems like you all would’ve preferred waiting.
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Pretty much sums up this movement perfectly
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No, that would be this.
I try to remain impartial but this part of the Mercy fanbase does make it hard. You could have said “Mercy buff still isn’t enough” and sounded a lot more rational and worth listening to, instead of…well, code of conduct and everything.
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It would be so much easier, if we just call it a buff. If they make character worse, its nerf, if they make it better, its buff.
Completely other thing is that Mercy got hit by ten ton nerf hammer and then got a teeny tiny buff to her ultimate. Does not make Mercy good.
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Making a character better is called buffing them. Reverting a nerf is a buff - 50hps felt like crap, 60 felt much better. Faster ults means more flappy deathmoth time.
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Valk is so useless at healing that you are as well to just pull out her pistol during it. In fact I mostly use Valk to return from spawn faster if I die.
This “partial revert” will improve nothing. Should have been a full revert on the last nerf.
Not the buff you wanted or not a good buff=/=not a buff.
The “not a buff” is a rhetorical expression referring to the fact that these last changes are not a net buff when both the last nerf and this change are examined together. It’s partially undoing the nerf from 60HPS to 50HPS.
Post is getting toxic and therefore we need an actual movement here…
@BriggSpaghettiMovement
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Just the other day I saw someone saying that the various movements “aim to create a positive environment on the forums”. Seems pretty ironic now.
Being toxic is not the way to get a hero changed. It’s a detriment to your own cause.
But yes, Mercy did get buffed. Even if you don’t think it’s helpful, it was 100% a buff. She might be less powerful now than a year ago, but a buff is a buff.
Buff is a term used in some video games, especially MMORPGs and MUDs, to describe increases in the power of a game element. There are two main usages. The first describes a permanent (or at least indefinite) increase in power levels as a result of adjustments to game mechanics, usually in pursuit of game balance.
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the 60HP/s on valkyrie will not fix the problems we have.
the ult is still a: ‘grab your pistol and get that widow back to her spawnroom’ ult.
once again the devs have no idea what they want with mercy.
they still ignore her problems.
the ult is not fun in the way it’s supposed to be used.
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