So long as players do not blatantly throw, go AFK, nor e-mote without shooting the whole match, they can still avoid being reported. Otherwise it’s off to time-out-land.
The current QP leaver system has two purposes:
To teach players that leaving is not OK
To prevent leavers from disrupting other games by not allowing them to play at all.
I don’t see nearly as many leavers in my games as before, so the new penalties are working as intended, much to the leaver community’s chagrin.
In all honesty, I’d rather have leavers exiled into a leavers-only queue so that they get to play but only with other leavers to get a taste of their own medicine. Other publishers have done similar punitive systems, and it has worked wonders for reducing the undesired behavior.
I mean, I can drive you off the forums too if you want… I been driving bigots out of here for the better part of a month and a half… you’re just another thursday evening… every blizzard game has been going to hell in a handbasket and mods and devs are utterly incompetant… i’m just doing my part to clean this player base of scum, cuz mods won’t do their jobs.
that WOULD fix the problem, if the game wasn’t F2p and making a new account only required a new Email… that is how people getting permabanned for cheating are still sticking around.
sounds like a player mentality problem not a blizzard being in the wrong problem. too bad these type of players will never admit they are wrong for trying to constantly leave games, or troll games because they dont want to lose a match.
if that was th only plausible issue, i would agree with you 100%. the thing is, Cheaters have been a plague on this game since going F2p. people don’t want to be in games with cheaters. once that issue is fixed, then we can see about seeing how big -that- issue actually is.
It isnt necessary for every single habitual leaver to be permanently banned in order for the game to be improved. Each one that is banned improves the game incrementally
As for the others…they get different teammates and opposition over the course of matches, with differring levels of observation skills. I see this as meaning that some habitual leavers will take longer to reach permanent bans than others, but i dont see any of them escaping this fate entirely if they choose to continue to do so
It isnt?
Actually, yes, the difference can be e observed.
Further, some of the habitual leavers will choose other forms of gameplay sabotage and/or idling, and these are far easier to detect
Its a process, and i wish it was faster, but i have seen reduction in leavers in my matches gradually over the past several months, so it is working.
I look forward to the day when leavers realize it is best not to queue at all if they have intent to leave
So instead of quitters leaving, quitters remain yet still quit by not playing. None of it actually makes sense, other than its a Cope. and not actually fixing anything.
it only appears on screen as people still “playing” when clearly they aren’t playing anymore. They are just moving around on screen and running around like bots and doing nothing.
The competitive driven crowd really did ruin it for themselves when they took the approach of playing competitive driven mindset in Quickplay instead of playing only in Competitive gameplay, encroaching on the Quickplay mode with their friends knowing it would give them lots of ez wins…
and then they become mad when the other team leaves because they are falling apart due to being dif’d by the match maker.
Which these causes are purely from people that wont stop making alt accounts to play Overwatch.
I do understand people want single-round matches, vs multi-round matches in competitive and thats a Blizzard issue, not a player issue.
Throwers in time get longer suspensions and are eventually permanently removed from the game, so this is even more effective than the leaver penalties in improving the quality of the game
I’ve never seen a single person on this forum complaining about being banned over THROWING, just CHEATING and FOUL language.
If they were banning people for throwing. it would be posted here within the hour. We see tons of “sob stories” about said persons say they dont know what they did to be banned, and then talk about it was some form of something that they didn’t know was a cheat, or bad speak".
Yes. Why? Why not encourage them not to play a multiplayer game…
Because almost nobody wants to backfill. Backfill is necessary because of leavers. So MAYBE you get a replacement quickly, MAYBE you get someone who has a better mindset or at the very least comparable skills. But it’s better not to have to deal with that in the first place and encourage people NOT to leave.
As opposed to those brave souls who bow out at the first whiff that the game isn’t going to go exactly as they want?
Leaving multiple games has had an xp penalty for a very long time. It was just extremely ignorable.
That they were aware of… just magical bans for no reason. People here are exceedingly unaware of exactly what they’re being banned for.
People here FAMOUSLY are banned for unknown reasons.
Is it a huge stretch to guess that someone who also loses their temper and yells at bad teammates would throw… and be reported for that?
again. we don’t have anything to go off of that says they are banning for “throwing” and “throwing” is subjective.
There are those that legit just give up and others that may just be too tired to play and aren’t playing. If blizzard was banning people over that. There would be a substantial amount of posts here by people complaining that they were “unfairly banned” for “throwing”.
read this post. most people come back and say on this forum why they were banned and give some speech about how blizzard staff told them what they did.
I think many of us have been here long enough since 2017 on the forums to read all the infamous “ban” stories, even to the ones Kaplan replied on, to know when people are being banned for what and they would B&M about that if they were being banned over throwing allegations.
how about just post something here that shows otherwise, where someone says they dont know why they were banned and we will follow their story or account action.
Or if you can find a post from before TODAY that states someone that was banned from the game for throwing and we can discuss it.
(To be fair) how about from October 1st of 2023 to November 14th of 2024. just to make searches easier. Since that would be a sample of people being banned for throwing after Leaver penalties were put into place.
Not all people. We get a lot of “for some reason” and do you really trust them to be telling the whole story or even relevant information?
The fact nobody has come here specifically claiming to be banned for throwing isn’t counter evidence.
To be completely honest I do remember a lot of people had arguments and THEN stated they were throwing and got banned. You gonna believe their specific take that they ONLY got banned for their language?
The sheer number of people here who are banned for “nothing” is innumerable. I like to participate in those threads to find out what people are actually being banned for. You can usually draw out at least an idea by their replies and attitudes VS what we know the rules are.
A LOT of those end up with no valuable actual information given on what they did or what exactly the punishment was outlined as (part of this due to Blizz’s terrible reponses to ban appeals as well).
However I would never conclusively use any of their stated reasons to prove or disprove what people are getting banned for. I don’t trust criminals to tell me what the laws are.
The amount of effort we needed to get to the bottom of “Blizzard basically banned china” was pretty extensive and concentrated into a short period with an extremely high visibility initial poster.
I’m not gonna go follow peoples accounts to prove that people are getting banned for something I have personally reported people for and later got “thank you” messages for them being actioned.
Well, i mean you’ve spent considerably more time on these forums than I have.
let me ask you this.
Have you seen ANYONE here claiming to be banned from QUICKPLAY over THROWING?
I see more posts like these here, than anything.
The thing is. i cant find anything from anyone before today and after October 1st of 2023 (last year) that specifically claim they were outraged about being banned over THROWING.
The discussion stems into “People throwing now in QP instead of leaving”. So the response goes to “Well they are banning those people so things are happening”…
But what is happening to them?
People would be here in droves, complaining about it if they were. The only things that are posted (over and over and over) on account action complaints are “cheating” bans and “bad speak” bans. thats it.
Find me ONE complaint between 10/01/2023 - 11/14/2024 on a person being “unfairly banned” for throwing games in quickplay and I will gladly concede this argument and eat my words for breakfast.
and no. the mods do NOT take those posts down. If I can find 2023 posts of people complaining about “bad speak” and cheating bans. If any posts contain information on thrower bans They will still be here today.
too bad these type of players will never admit they are wrong for trying to constantly leave games, or troll games because they dont want to lose a match.