Why?
Leave ana alone, being meta doesn’t mean she is unbalanced.
Bap needs buffs, of three main healer bap is gutted moira is meh, ana is the only good main healer.
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She’s not out of line. She’s even worse than the same Ana she was when she was wood tier.
Other supports were just dumpstered making the least worst the best.
She has her self sustain tied to her only means of healing less than similar average healing to the hero’s she compete’s with as well as having that same ability tied to her best offensive ability. If she uses it for anti, she has fractioned both her own survivability as well as her teams survivability. If she uses it selfishly to heal herself, the enemy no longer has to fear anti and her team can no longer counter on burst heal. If she uses it defensively to save a team mate, she’s now an easy target to dive and the enemy doesn’t have to worry about getting antied when they dive her.
It’s literally because it does so much that it’s balanced, because using it wrong at any given time can literally throw team fights, and even games. Given her poor win rate by a good majority of the playerbase, it’s working as intended.
“Blizzard made 2 really stupid mistakes, lets encourage them to do it again”
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Because God forbid we have actually mechanically demanding heroes be meta.
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Her pickrate went down by 25% after the patch at GM. Clearly not everyone sees it the way you do.
How did it go down by 25 when her peak was 18% and she currently stands at 12%?
I’m also saying this as the 12-15% pickrate has been a general average for GM, throughout the last 6 months except two occasions, one in April where for a few days (or a week?) she had consistent pickrate of 17-20% and then in Hog’s patch, her pickrate rocketed to 18% again just because of the meta shift.
Despite this, her pickrate outside of those small times frames has been around the 12-15% threshold. So I don’t understand how I’m just saying this because “I don’t like the truth”?
It’s the defenders of Ana that sat here circle jerking stats until the stats show something that they don’t like or something that no longer agrees with them
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You just ignore everything and listen to your feelings.
I have at least video evidence about how strong Ana can be
Even if you say “the whole game”: A gold/plat Ana is far worse than a T500. So if T500 has a hard time hitting good offensive nades, it’s even harder for gold/plat.
No reasoning, only feelings. I’m out
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imagine moth meta mercy with only losing 5 hp/s to her primary.
imagine release brig with a reduction of 5 hp/s from her healing.
it wouldnt of done a single thing to them as that wasnt their problematic issue.
Ana’s same way.
Her primary was NEVER her issue.
losing 5 hp/s and clip size reduction did nothing to her. (literally)
Bionade and nano are why you pick ana.
it isnt for her primary.
EVERYONE knows that.
Devs ignore that and hit the parts that dont matter.
it would be same as if they made widow’s grapple have a 2sec longer cd…will it be a nerf statistically? yes.
will it ACTUALLY nerf her? no.
brig, mercy, bap, moira have ALL had their “high pickrate” limelight SEVERELY nerfed where it hurt.
Ana is apparently immune to this.
Its legit favortism and bias towards her compared to any other support.
there is no denying it.
Even Moth Mercy didn’t have #1 pick for as long as Ana has now…and this is also fact that a meta ana SHOULDNT be good in (dive) still kept her at top.
ana mains can say w/e they want to try and defend her…but it wont change facts.
ana is so far ahead of rest that her worst meta still keeps her at #1.
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Her pickrate peak last month was about 40% in the support category. It’s not 30%. 10/40 = 1/4 = 25%
Wow this is a sickening false equivalence. Moth mercy was over 100% picked across all elo’s for months. Ana used to break 16% every few days in GM.
Release Brig was literally made to shut down an entire team comp and every hero in it, while having a broken bug that made her and the rest of her team more of a tank than ever should have been in the first place.
Ana has fallen into meta… on ladder specifically, after every other healer was nerfed into the ground. She was replaced by Moria just from a Meta change. She was replaced by Bap just from a meta change. Even right now, she’s dropping pick rate with just Winston becoming meta. Pro’s aren’t even running her, instead opting for a rush comp with Moira/Lucio
And you’re trying to equate that to Moth and Release Brig? That’s some serious tribalism you got goin’ on.
What facts? You’re blatantly lying.
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“No brain required” Lol go ahead and climb using only Ana then, if shes so easy and braindead and OP you’ll have no trouble.
my main got wrecked, so other mains should get wrecked too.
/s
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true.
i really don’t understand the people who think like this. wrecking a support that isn’t wrecked is not going to make their mains un-wrecked again. jealousy is scary. really scary.
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Logic?? in this thread?? preposterous.
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It did for Moira though.
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I’m not the one rejecting data, you are.
Any given top player (like ML7) is included in the data which is the total aggregate stats of all players, you are ignoring everyone EXCEPT that one player.
I have video evidence of a millionaire living in a mansion.
That doesn’t prove homelessness doesn’t exist.
You can’t accuse me of ignoring anything because I factor the how it is for EVERYONE rather than a small unrepresentative sample from the top.
It’s utterly worthless to point out how much cheaper you think ordinary houses are than mansions, that doesn’t prove a thing for those with different income.
But they’re playing against other top players and with other top players as allies, it’s totally different when gold players face gold players.
And you’re trying to prove a negative only with positives.
You can’t prove someone never crashed a car just by showing them driving a car.
I am using reasoning, you’re just lying about me.
But I don’t think you’re out, you’re just contriving excuses to ignore me because you’re freaking out how you can’t defend ana from nerfs you don’t want her to get.
I cant send links, but you can pick on the Hero icon on Overbuff and then click on “Trends”. This is way more accurate
Her Pickrate dropped from “15-16%” (6 Hereos, you calculate *6, Overbuff does this wrong and you cant get over 16.67%), so actual 90-95% to “9.5-10.5%”, so actual 57%-63%.
She dropped 40% in a week without getting nerfes.
The number of players in high ranks get according to blizzard higher with the time, years ago we had 1.6% players in GM. Games with a simular size have 50k - 100k players online per day, that mean if OW has 1000-2000 GM players playing right now, propably much more, becauce GM players play a lot more then casuals. A game needs up to 30 minutes, even with the worst case its 4000 games Played in GM every hour. You really gonna argue this is cherry picking? XD
You also ignored that on days Monkey got played a lot Anas pickrate dropped too, why do you ignore this?
And pls tell wich Support you mean (Exept bap, becauce he is only good in doubleshield. Thats still 5 other sups left)
Those are completely different ways of measuring pickrate.
One is from omnic meta which is simply “out of each GAME, how often is Mercy picked at all” versus the 16% for Ana for “What’s the chance any single hero is picked per slot”.
If mercy was picked in every single game you know what that would mean for per hero pickrate? 16.6%. As 100% divided by 6 players is 16.6%
Not a fact.
This is just your opinion that you push hard to undermine their opinion.
She’s been the most consistently popular support hero.
Is this from cherry picking certain ranks?
There’s not point in cherry picking certain ranks when any changes would affect Ana played in all ranks and regardless of what rank you’re in you still paid for the game and deserve just as much consideration.
Now it may be your opinion that certain (lower) ranks to be should be ignored and/or screwed over but it’s not one you’ve ever justified.
An opinion isn’t a lie just because you don’t like it.
That’s totally wrong.
You’re comparing two totally different numbers.
3 months ago Ana’s pickrate was 11.12% now it is 12.67%.
This is is of course ALL RANKS, you get screwy results when you cherry pick the data from only certain (higher) ranks.
There’s not much point going back before 3 months as that’s the point where hero bans were in place and they introduced such chaotic noise into the system.
No on the Sept-5th she peaked at 14.55% then fell veeery slightly to 12.67%.
This is not significant, this is just fluctuation. If you had asked me on Sept-5th I wouldn’t have said Ana’s pickrate would have inevitably kept rising.
So what?
There’s more billionaires with time, that doesn’t mean only billionaires get to vote.
No I didn’t, you never demonstrated any such data.
And I refuse to limit myself to only certain ranks, it’s ALL RANKS. Which is not me ignoring GM as GM is included in All Ranks but not with any special treatment.