The reasons i consider him balanced? 2 things.
1- Dive’s gone. So all his counters are out. Any hero without a counter would seem stronger than what they actually are.
2- This meta is basically a gift wrapped meta for hanzo. Not only the new version, but even the old version hanzo would have been great against low mobility, giant targets, this meta is. plus dragon grav combo is nearly unstoppable thanks to mercy damage boost.
So when everything is handed to him on a golden platter, it’s not a fair deduction to consider him OP just because of this. When dive comes back, and he still acts too powerful, we can talk about nerfs.
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We do not need dive to see that he is overtuned, my regular maches do not consists of all stars and only one comp of heroes. But I agree that all best cards in this meta are in his hands
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Pros and cons on Hanzo are weird, he’s a sniper who isn’t defenseless when you close the distance, and who can fire his weapon without reloading. Every aspect of him got buffed more or less, However, they needed to eliminate the “troll pick” monicker.
My issue is that I accidentally get headshots with him? Which instantly kill people?
Anyway, let’s break it down:
Hanzo pros:
Sonic arrow on short cd
Massive damage
Ult goes through walls
Can climb walls
Doesn’t have to reload
Storm arrow does massive damage within a second
Ult build really fast
Projectiles are easier to hit
Cons:
Doesn’t have the same range as widow
Not a hitscan
Shots take longer to charge up then other characters.
Sonic arrow doesn’t last as long or cover as much ground as it used to
I’m trying my best to think of cons, but it’s hard.
I don’t think that’s balanced.
Lunge was completely unnecessary.
Hanzo is very versatile with Storm Arrows and has the opportunity to prep encounters in his favor with sonic arrow or avoid unfavorable ones. Storm Arrow basically turns his bow into McCree’s Peacemaker with no fall off, and McCree’s only defense is shooting the other guy.
How a hero that can do that on just an 8 second cooldown while still doing all the other things got another escape tool is beyond me.
He’s overpowered because they buffed his projectile speed. Fix that and people might have a reason to occasionally pick McCree.
Haha, might not be up on the lingo, how do you mean?
I dont really know why his ult goes through walls anymore. It doesn’t seem to need to be unblockable by shields and walls
See I go the other way, I think you can be very effective with a much weaker storm arrow. I’m going to try just not mapping it to a button today and see how I do.
I’m fine with his ult, but storm arrows needs to be fixed. He can drain a tank in 2 seconds.
pretty sure he can kill tank with 2 headshoots too.
Oh for sure.
Honestly, I was hoping they’d go the utilitarian route for Hanzo instead of just making him a damager. Keep his skill potential tied to his standard primary and give him a CC arrow or something instead of scatter/storm.
Your nerfs are a good way to kill hanzo, i’m suprised you want to gut a character when your username is SOMBRA.
He’s not balanced. He was never balanced after he got his Storm Arrows.
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They’re asking for an argument as to his balance. They made an argument for him not being balanced.
Yeah, I mean, a sniper who can easily Win a 1v1 at close range seems kinda…silly? Who also has no damage falloff and is weirdly the stealthiest character. Sombra SHOULD be but she’s constantly babbling getting in and out of stealth. I can headshot a guy and he’ll never be able to locate me
I agree on the storm arrow CD nerf, It is really quick. I think they need to give him 4 storm arrows, with 75 damage. This would make it so he cant melt takes as majorly, max of 300 dmg, the current max is 420 dmg. Pretty crazy IMO. Maybe also increase the duration for 8 seconds, so its not encouraged to spam shots and more accuratley aim them. OR just give it infinite duration and a cancel button idk id like that more (it starts cool down after you cancel or shoot all your arrows obviously) i just dont like being labeled a spamzo. Hanzo doesnt have high mobility. Widow has high mobility and can snipe 90% of the roster across the map, NOT hanzo. 8 seconds on leap? you cant compare a movement ability like widows grapple to hanzos measly hop. He still can barley jump out winstons effective range. I dont play at diamond on console, so i wouldnt know about the meta there. I think you made this post with a little bit of salt in mind, you basically want to make storm arrow into mccree fth with range and a cooldown. think about that for a moment.
Sure she can, all she is doing is sitting on haven and shooting from there on poor guys with no shields, no corners , all map is just made so widow can sit there and spam from spawn at poor enemy. Also there is shield in front with 4 superman guarding her which makes her invincible.I think you have poor understanding of grapple hook if you think it is better mobility skill.
Here’s the thing with mobility skills, once they’re buffed you cant really nerf them. It’s like cutting off a leg. I don’t want one legged hanzos on either team.
I don’t think he’s balanced ether but 40 damage, no headshots, an 10 second cooldown for storm arrow and 8 second leap combined would kill him and to be somewhat productive with my response, i’ll give my nerf ideas, also to your other half of the post to coda his version off drop off was his pre storm arrow, arrow speed but they removed even that weakness.
Revert his projectile speed (his current projectile speed takes away one of his and maybe his only weakness which is his range)
Make storm arrow a all or nothing ability (meaning once you hit the button it fires all 6 shots)
Give storm arrow a 10 second cooldown (it’s no different from scatter arrows cooldown so i wouldn’t mind)
Make storm arrow do 75 instead fo 70 damage (it only does 70 because of tracer and d.va, i don’t think any character should be nerfed because another especially when their low health is suppose to be their weakness)
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