High School D.Va it is then

"I know my KDR! :wink: "

I think the word you’re looking for is creepy, and I really, really hope that’s just a coincidence.

You don’t see them because they got deleted. Like honestly those of us who saw them cannot unsee that, it was sick.

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This is 1000 percent the reference point. It is blatant. Unfortunately some of those anime also sexualize these minor girls so that reference point does not help the situation.

This is what caused such a huge reaction. He linked it to a phrase that first got mainstream attention by Kim Kardashian doing a glamor butt pose. The reaction is entirely appropriate because he used a phrase that could mean she was getting a sexy skin and then you find out she’s a schoolgirl. He made people question who the skin was supposed to be pandering to with his comments.

It shouldn’t come at a surprise or be looked down upon that people don’t appreciate that kind of pandering when it comes to a subject made to look underage.

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D.va is a Korean girl wearing a bunch of Japanese tropes. She’s a high schooler with a mech.

KR community seems to be in the opinion 판결자 is a mistranslation by Blizzard art team in trying to say student council disciplinary committee a la Academy city’s Judgement in the Railgun series.
I personally think it’s a shout out to the KR meme 종결자, which literally means ‘the terminator’ but more popularly used to refer to someone who settles all disputes regarding ‘who’s da best in XX’ simply by being indisputably the best oneself.

Okay?

While I was in College I took several classes and met several people.

Does that mean I am in college?

Notice how it is past tense.

I’m sure he is upset at the blatant lack of a miniskirt.

I think it’s funny that you are upset over this when your name is bowsette.

He knew people would be triggered for no reason :wink:

She’s not underage.
This isn’t pandering honestly. My friend who who just became a mom was freaking out about how much she loved the skin. When I told her about the controversy surrounding it she couldn’t believe it.

People honestly will get upset over anything. It’s hilarious

It is possible for it to be a nice skin, and for them to make comments pandering to a group. It is not mutually exclusive. That’s her high school uniform. She’s supposed to look underage. They got her in pigtails. Don’t front.

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So if I wear my highschool uniform that means I’m supposed to look underage? And if my wife wears pigtails she’s now younger?

Cmon dude. Are you being serious?

She’s not underage: fact.

It doesn’t really matter because she’s a collection of polygons

Where is your outrage over Mei’s bootyshorts? And what about McCree’s sexualized skin?

She’s pandering to a specific type of anime trope, which regularly features underage girls. In addition, we don’t actually know her age in this skin because it’s apparently a lore skin. If they have decided to reincorporate their previously scrapped lore she’d be 16.

Mei is an adult, so is McCree. And neither are designed to look younger or to pander to specific fantasies about high schoolers.

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And if my wife does that does that make my wife underage?

No.

In addition, it doesn’t and shouldn’t matter.

And if they did it still wouldn’t matter.

So is DVA.

She’s 19. I’ve seen 19 year olds that looked much younger than her. Look up “petite” on google

You’re getting upset over nothing.

This debate …and here we go again :neutral_face:
*Grabs a pack of Doritos *

Your wife has absolutely nothing to do with anything. And you’re either willfully ignorant or missing the point, but what the skin coupled with that internet breaking comment is paying homage to is a trope that sexualizes minor characters. It’s not two real life adults in cosplay.

If D.va is actually underage age in that skin, it makes that break the internet comment all the worse.

If you don’t see the problem with the rampant sexualization of minors in anime, produced by a country with a lax attitude and laws towards actual predation of children then that’s on you.

That comment about the skin was gross, and open pandering to people who consume that content.

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It’s actually preemptively making fun of people like you who get upset over nothing.

Please prove this claim.

I don’t see a problem. I would rather people who are attracted to children get their satisfaction from fictional characters, not real kids. This is coming from a father by the way.

Some people are attracted to that and they cannot help it. We should at least allow artists to provide material for them so they don’t act out on their desires in real life.

Also, the country that you are trying to demonize has far, far fewer cases of sexual assault.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

So where is the problem? Please provide your own sources and statistics that show there is an issue.

I’ll wait.

The amount that you want to be upset is actually hilarious honestly. The skirt isn’t even a miniskirt.

Missing the point doesn’t make you seem educated.

Not a claim of fact.

That’s because they don’t take it as seriously so it’s less reported.

http://time.com/2892728/japan-finally-bans-child-pornography/

Like there wasn’t even a real punishment for possession of it until 2014. Go look up the slap on the wrist the author of Ruroni Kenshin got and compare it to how nuclear they went against the Yakuza voice actor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/57eaaf23-0cef-48c8-961f-41f2563b38aa

This whole is an issue that has been debated in that country for quite some time. I am not demonizing them by pointing out a problem. Every country has it’s problems.

And the rampant abuse and lack of prosecution against predation of young people is one of Japan’s and the proliferation and normalization of these things in anime don’t help.

I don’t “want” to be upset. I am annoyed by the comment because I am educated on the issue. But you know what they say, ignorance is bliss.

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I am educated so I don’t care what you think about me. In fact, I’d argue that your short-sighted position is evidence of your lack of education.

So you admit you have very weak ground to stand on then?

And you think that would make up for the vast, vast difference in statistics?

And yes they should outlaw the magazines that features actual human children.

I’m not talking about actual humans. You’re going away from the topic at hand.

Again you are changing the topic. We are not talking about actual humans.

Then how come Japan isn’t violent? They have many, many extremely violent anime in Japan. The proliferation and normalization of violence has not caused a violent populace.

If the girls are not real and are, in fact, just drawings of fictional characters then there is nothing wrong because they are not real.

You have yet to combat my point I outline below. If you ignore it again I’m going to not continue discussing this with you.

These people who have these urges cannot help but to have these urges. We should give them an outlet to reach satisfaction without hurting actual humans. Do you disagree with this?

Again, though, if you wish to remain consistent then you have to explain why the normalization of violence has not had an affect yet the normalization of sexualization does despite the statistics that show the contrary is true.

Please post your qualifications

Irrelevant. A joke that makes it seem like you can’t comprehend what someone is saying to you doesn’t make them look them bad. That statement was about your joke, not your position.

Nope. You pretending a very obvious opinion was a fact that needed proof is entirely on you.

If a behavior is a crime in one country and not in another, that country won’t have a lot of reports. Because most people aren’t gonna report something non-criminal or for which they feel ashamed to make a big deal out of. It doesn’t mean it happens less, it means the statistical dataset is not reliable.

They did in 2014. It’s a slap on the wrist punishment.

No. I am not. Because as I said before, the problem with that anime is indicative of a culture around tolerance for that type of behavior. Social mores and cultural norms play a bigger role in preventing crime than police and laws ever could. And those animes positively reinforce a bad part of their culture. And every society has it’s issues. It’s not to demonize them. But the relaxed attitude towards this stuff is why people feel so comfortable putting in anime in the first place. They feed into each other.

To be fair to them they have made quite a few strides over the past several years. And it’s becoming less acceptable.

No. I am not. I have been talking about it since the beginning.

Because the human mind’s stimulation from sex versus violence is different. This is easily observable. There isn’t media that people watch to get themselves in the mood to commit acts of violence in any large number. Adult movies on the other hand is one of the largest industries in the world.

The two are apples and oranges.

They might not hurt anyone with their production, but it does contribute it’s part in the negative culture aspects that make this such an issue. Laws come from cultural values not the other way around, because people have to decide something is a problem before action can be taken against it. And media plays it part in spreading and reinforcing those values.

And you think that’s the group that should be pandered to with developer comments in a T rated game?

I have a Bachelor’s Degree in Political Science and a Bachelor’s Degree in East Asian Languages and Culture. I have enjoyed anime for decades and have read plenty of news coming out of that country.

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It is.
There is D.mon, D.va, Casino, King, and Overlord

Nope. Wow you refuse to answer the question. It’s sort of hilarious how far you’re willing to go!

I’m definitely done dealing with you as you are seemingly intentionally missing the point, intentionally not answering specific and direct questions, and literally getting upset over nothing.

You and people like you are literally being regressive in this situation and it’s sad because it is obvious you think you’re being progressive.

You know as well as I do that a bachelor’s hardly means your word is law or even close to compelling. I’m sure many people with the same qualifications disagree with your short-sighted position.

This is, of course, an appeal to authority when you aren’t even the authority.

Good luck in the job market and goodbye.

Then they are irrelevant to the conversation. And thus, I will not derail the conversation from the inappropriate comments about breaking the internet, and why I feel they are inappropriate, to a conversation about how to best handle child predators. The latter is not an appropriate topic for the forums. D.va’s skin, it’s inspiration, and marketing is one.

Answering your direct questions about my qualifications is an appeal to authority. Sure, Jan. Intellectual dishonesty at it’s finest.

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