I hear all over the forums that Hanzo’s 16% increase to his projectile speed made him “basically hitscan” but this couldn’t be farther from the truth (maybe against bronze players).
His new projectile speed is 100m/s, which makes them have an identical projectile speed to Ana’s unscoped shots. If they aren’t considered “basically hitscan” then neither are Hanzo’s.
Another factor to consider is that Hanzo hardly ever takes advantage of his full projectile speed. Just like Widow, Hanzo wants to deal as close to 200 damage on a headshot as possible but as Hanzo’s damage is tied to his projectile speed, it means that his arrows actually travel significantly slower than his 100m/s max projectile speed most of the time.
This means that on average, Hanzo’s arrows are actually travelling slower than a lot of projectile heroes. Slower than Mei’s, slower than Zenyatta’s and slower than Ana’s, while also having a smaller projectile hitbox as well.
(Only smaller than Ana’s when she is targetting allies)
I know some people charge it not fully to only hit the breakpoint for 200 hp. But I’m sure most people charge fully and you probably want to charge it fully most of the time because that’s the most damage and he spams a lot. If you can do 250 hp why not when you can spam. His charge is nowhere near widow’s and he can do a lot more DPS than her so fully charging arrows is not like some foreign concept that no one does. Considering Zen’s primary fire is 66 I wouldn’t be surprised if at the speed that Hanzo’s arrow move at they wouldn’t be lethal at that speed.
Edit: I realize tat some of this is wrong. Didn’t google enough.
Any Hanzo player worth ones salt would never consistently fully charge his bow, its just stupid to do so, same if a Widow player did it honestly. This is just speaking out of experience, I do have over 200+ hours on the hero.
“His charge is nowhere near Widow’s”
Wrong, again… Starting to feel like Trump right now.
Widow’s charge time is 0.75 seconds while Hanzo’s is 0.7.
“Zen’s primary fire is 66”
Zen’s primary travels at 80m/s not 66m/s.
Source? I never get hit while spamming ADAD by any other projectile hero as much as I do by Hanzo, which leads me to believe that his arrow hitbox runs the full length of the arrow and that it is possible to run sideways into it after the tip has already passed the head, because I don’t believe that 90% of the Hanzo players I meet just so happen to have godlike aim.
Also, his head hitbox is definitely more generous than Zenyatta’s. Tested that in the Shooting range, if you start shooting a stationary bot in the middle of the head and slowly work your way down after each respawn, you can shoot a lot lower with Hanzo than you can with Zenyatta before the shot is counted as a body shot rather than a headshot.
Sounds like that quote only covers the radius of the arrow. I wonder about the length of the hitbox, though, which is pretty significant when shooting moving targets. Also that doesn’t explain why a shot that would be counted as bodyshot for one of the larger projectile heroes is counted as a headshot for Hanzo.
While I agree that his arrows are not basically hitscan, I also dont think many hanzo players consistently shoot arrows that are not fully charged, unless the person is injured and in close range.
Not by much and if you’re measuring headshot dps vs body shot dps widow is on top not hanzo
104-208 dps on hanzo vs 96-240 dps
Hanzo has a charge time of .7 seconds with a .5 second delay between charging shots leading to 1 125-250 damage shot per 1.2 seconds while Widow has a charge time of .75 seconds with a .5 second delay between charging shots leading to 1 120-300 damage shot per 1.25 seconds
You either are just saying that to push your mentality of hanzo arrows being pretty much hitscan, or you have never played ana and dont know what her abilities are. Cant think of any other situation someone wouldnt know unscoped is a projectile. Oh or are a very new player.
