🏹[Hanzo] One of these has to go

[GreyFalcon-11737]

with 545 damage without headshots he’s an everything counter.

If Junkrat could Primary fire, then follow up with 4x Concussion Mines, for a total of 600 damage, people would rage on the forums like crazy.

And current Hanzo is pretty much that same level of crazy right now.

[sral94-2751]

Junkrat does 800 damage in 2.3 seconds.
(the time it takes for hanzo to do his storm arrows and one single shot)

Soldier does 500.
Reaper does 560.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

Junkrat does 800 damage in 2.3 seconds.
(the time it takes for hanzo to do his storm arrows and one single shot)

Soldier does 500.
Reaper does 560.

The difference is that those are hard to hit shots.

Storm Arrow has zero charge time, and near instance projectile speed. (Might not even have a gravity to it)

So you could compare it to easily aimed abilities.

Like for instance, giving Soldier 4x Helix Rockets on a 10 second cooldown.

[sral94-2751]

Hard to hit? The target is standing still for 3 seconds.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

Hard to hit? The target is standing still for 3 seconds.

Storm Arrow is easy to aim.

Concussion Mine is easy to aim.

Helix Rocket is easy to aim.

Give Soldier/Junkrat an easily aimed barrage of 480 damage, and they would be broken.

[sral94-2751]

And reapers normal shots, soldiers normal shots, mccrees normal shots, etc. Are hit scan, where you don’t need to lead a target.
While hanzo’s arrows are projectile.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

And reapers normal shots, soldiers normal shots, mccrees normal shots, etc. Are hit scan, where you don’t need to lead a target.
While hanzo’s arrows are projectile.

None of which matters below medium range.

Especially against large targets like a Tank.

[sral94-2751]

Which makes them even easier to aim, and doesn’t get you killed If you miss a single shot.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

Which makes them even easier to aim, and doesn’t get you killed If you miss a single shot.

That would make sense.

Except that Hanzo has a short cooldown Lunge ability that gets him out of the effective range of dive tanks.

Not to mention, damage boosts, discords and friendly teammate attacks.

Also, this is assuming is impossible for a “sniper” to ever get a headshot.

Why would a sniper have such a huge safety net?

[sral94-2751]

out of the effective range of dive tanks

Which is outside winstons shield. So he can’t kill him anymore.

Damage boost, etc. Also counts for any other hero in the game.

Why would the soldier / reaper never hit a headshot?

[ConnieAmore-1171]

no no no no no, you forgot something very important as well.
So TWO things have to go.

get rid of hanzo’s one shot cus he can either be in ur face and one shot you, or be at sniper’s length away. He’s supposed to be a sniper but he can snipe much closer than widow can.

or get rid of his close quarters combat potential so he goes further back in the crowd and not try to snipe u from 1 meter away.

[ConnieAmore-1171]

the sad part is, is that this will just make grav strikes, the reason zarya was nerfed, more common because zarya will now get her ult more often than she used to.

[GreyFalcon-11737]

no no no no no, you forgot something very important as well.
So TWO things have to go.

get rid of hanzo’s one shot cus he can either be in ur face and one shot you, or be at sniper’s length away. He’s supposed to be a sniper but he can snipe much closer than widow can.

or get rid of his close quarters combat potential so he goes further back in the crowd and not try to snipe u from 1 meter away.

I’m actually perfectly fine with snipers getting kills via headshots.

What’s bizarre to me is a “sniper” getting easy kills without headshots.

Especially easy kinda on tanks. Without headshots.

[Ƒocus-2869]

Wait…Rein got nerfed? When??

[SensualSpud-1202]

It’s more of a really unfortunate series of bugs that keep plaguing him. I made a post, and the post links to other people’s reports of new issues.

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[Darrington-11693]

I’ll bet it didn’t in development when Brigitte gave the team +150 armor.

Maybe it didn’t feel too powerful either when Brig was playtested with Torb for durability comps, but let’s face it: DPS players hate taking more than 2-3 seconds to kill anything.

[Ƒocus-2869]

I can’t really play Rein anymore. Almost anything I’m up against has a way of punishing me for existing.

[Darrington-11693]

Swap off to Orisa.
The benefit is huge.

OR run Orisa + Rein and double barrier push your way into any scenario.

[Ferret-11714]

I’m pretty sure Winston’s Tesla is 8m.

[SidewaysGts-1926]

Landing a perfect scatter was rng…

Now that is gone, in favor of an abillity that does less damage, does it over time instead of instant, and…

You started off good. Dropped the ball IMO along the way.

You hit it right at the start- scatter was RNG. And while it’s true SA does less than scatter could do- which was arguably too much as it was…

It reliably does 90% of the damage scatter “could” do- and can do its max damage far, FAR more consistently- which if I’m not cray cray is only 30 damage off.

It doing its damage “over time” in the actual context of how the ability works is ALSO not a negative thing.

1- it still happens fast enough that your reaction time is basically non existent.

But two- it adds a huge layer of diversity to the ability.

Scatter was all or nothing. Fire it. Wham bam all or nothing at one target. Sure the shards could hit someone- but usually didn’t, nor was it usually enough to matter.

Being able to aim and fire each individual arrow though?

Totally different.

He can get a head shot here. Put a couple body shots there. Let loose another arrow over there.

Storm arrow is way better in nearly every regard- especially in the regards that matter