I’m honestly basically out of ideas regarding what heroes need what changes in order to kill goats. All I know is that it is a disgustingly boring and unskilful comp and needs to be gone at some stage. I think maybe the heroes that need to be nerfed are Brig, Lucio, and maybe a nerf to Rein’s shatter, but I want to leave it up to the devs. I just hope that after stage 1 of OWL, the devs will finally put an end to this disgusting comp.
Also, to people saying brig is now balanced or underpowered, she is not in the slightest. despite her being an easy hero, people in low ranks still seem to fail to be able to use her to her potential. also, I’d rather a hero be bad in low rank and balanced in high rank than balanced in low rank and OP in high rank. a hero being bad does nothing to the game. a hero being OP, on the other hand, destroys the game. case in point: mercy meta season 6. hanzo meta season 10. and now we have goats meta season 13/14.
what an incredibly dumb and fallacious argument. every single pro player is forced to play goats even in matchmaking due to its power. are you going to tell professionals there is no hope for them? yeah dude, because I’m sure some random delusional guy on the forums is much better at defeating goats than pros… … … … .
given, your quoted thread, I’m going to unfortunately assume that your post isn’t satire, which is quite concerning, considering what you just said is practically a meme at this point. adding a hero to counter a comp is how we got brigitte in the first place, which was, according to many, the worst addition that overwatch has ever seen. i mean, there is literally a movement to delete her from the game.
also, an OP comp being countered by a single hero does nothing except predicates the balance of the game on a single hero, thereby making them, and goats, a must pick. that sounds like an absolutely awful decision to me. but I trust blizzard that they learned their lesson after they added brig to the game that it was not the way to deal with meta comps, so I’m not too worried.
First of all, the reason why theres a movement to delete her from the game is beacuse this community is filled with people who cant handle any hero that requires a different approach,
case and point,
Old symmetra
old Torbjorn
Bastion
Doomfist
Etc
And while brig was initially a problem, She no longer is, She was slightly OP at first, But now shes balanced, and shes a good addition to the roster,
Funny how people justify literally nerfing a core mechanic as a measure of desperation to stop the comp, but adding a hero to counter it is forbidden
obviously blizzard isn’t going to just let goats be a must pick forever. there will be absolute outcry and OWL (their main investment in this game at this point) will die a slow and painful death if goats stays around. my bet is that goats get absolutely slaughtered at the end of stage 1. if it doesn’t, the game is in trouble.
Support has enabled every meta…
Mercy is in a “balanced spot.” Buffing her may make her op again. Which in itself enables dps comps…which changes the meta. They are not going to nerf tanks and supports anymore than they have. And dps are already much stronger then they have ever been…
are you attempting to slip in some pretentious ad hominem? of course top 500s and pros are just incapable of approaching the game differently, but some guy in platinum on the forums is just the most flexible guy in the game and can play around ANY hero addition!
none of those heroes ever had a movement to be removed.
“slightly” overpowered lmfao
she was one of the most broken heroes the game has ever seen when she was added, probably up there with mcrightclick v1. and she’s still very overpowered. i wonder why pros still want her nerfed MUST BE THEIR AGENDA!!! THEY CANT PLAY AROUND HER!!!
funny how some random guy thinks a single hero countering an overpowered 6 heroes is going to do anything but make a roster of 7 must picks instead of 6 and another insanely overpowered hero. funny how some random guy thinks brigitte was a healthy addition to the game. funny how this guy even thinks that “hero counters” should be anywhere near this potent.
Oh, please. OWL will die anyway. However, its death won’t be caused by GOATS, or DIVE or any possible future meta composition. OWL will die because it’s a poorly designed e-sport by mirror matches and a small roster of heroes.
dive comp was not enabled by supports. and this point is irrelevant anyway.
so why in the world would you buff her
we already had 10 months of the absolute cancer moth meta
so #1 it is not the only way to kill goats, and #2 you are proposing to make the game equally unbalanced by overbuffing an already balanced hero. nice.
big claim, 0 justification. the blizzard forum special. of course they are going to nerf tanks and supports further.
big claim, 0 justification v2. tracer, soldier, genji, pharah, doomfist are all trash right now, but beyond that, were you actually playing season 1? when DPS heroes were actually as, if not more OP than tanks and healers? … … …
just bring back cancer moth meta 4head, it will fix everything !!
You dont want to hear anything based on all your responses to every poster. You just want brig nerfed for the 15th time. Your bad if you think she needs more nerfs. Shes utterly pathetic outside of any comp theb goats. When goat dies she will need 10 buffs to become anywhere near viable.
Support enabled every meta and its general knowledge. Its exactly why you are asking for brig and lucio nerfs. Your proving that you think supports will change the meta.
Did you seriously say genji and tracer are trash right now?
What are you on? Should we buff tracer? Give her 4 blinks?
Quit watching streams dude. Its messing with your head. Goats doesnt even exist for 95% of the players. In plat/diamond it is still 2x2x2 or 3 dps.
New metas usually don’t form overnight and the patch is not even a week old yet. Soon some combination will produce results equal to or greater than GOATS. We also don’t want to kill GOATS off, we want other metas to be just as viable.
With that said:
In high Masters/Low GM games I am noticing significantly less GOATS being played.
MUST BE THEIR AGENDA!!! THEY CANT PLAY AROUND HER!!!