I know you’re trying to be a smartass with your suggestion, but its actually one that would work since Mercy can go off on her own merit to do damage.
I think you missed my point. Valkyrie makes you into the Supercharger, meaning you have to just “hold the beam” to get value out of it and reposition yourself a bit to avoid sniping. Not very engaging is it? Or you go pew-pew in an attempt to have some fun/be engaged in the fight and trigger everyone on your team unless you actually manage a couple of kills.
Valkyrie is obviously more versatile than Supercharger (although people often forget that SC actually boosts 6 people unlike Mercy’s 5, leading to an even greater difference in power) but is it more fun? I’d put them both down as pretty boring, if sometimes useful, ultimates. But let’s just say I don’t play Orisa for her ult, and maybe if hers were more fun people would actually play her…
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Why is it so many other Mercy mains want to do damage themselves? You picked a support hero that’s dedicated weapon buffs your allies and you want to lay that down to run around with your pea shooter? please just go play a support that was built to have their own offensive abilities, there are 5 of them, there is only one Mercy, and if you don’t find her fun/engaging then play one of the other 5 and leave my favourite pacifist alone.
We don’t. We’d prefer an ult that can save a team from being wiped or bring invaluable utility like healing someone instantly for 450 hp and boosting their attack and defense. Since we don’t have that we prefer to pistol because it’s more engaging than watching your team die slightly slower than they would if you didn’t use Valk.
I’ve needed to use her pistol more, and have really grown to like it. Her 50hps feels a lot faster when no one’s around to wear it down.
I’ve found it’s often more advantageous if I whip out my pistol and scare off a threat or help secure a kill and heal after they’re gone than if I sheepishly hold my heal beam on someone praying the enemy decides to shoot someone else, or forgets I was there to get the Rez off.
Thank you for the great argument
If you want a counter to team wipes play Lucio or Zen, , 60 HPS or 30% damage boost to the entire team can sway a team fight. If your team is dying when you use Valkyrie you might be timing it improperly.
Damage boost is also a thing, and will usually result in a higher TTK than your pistol. Plus if your partner gets hit with burst damage you are much more likely to be able to save them when just switching beams versus having to swap to your staff and lock-on.
No cuz I don’t like their kits outside of their ults,
Weaker than Supercharger damage boost and weaker than any support ultimate in terms of healing and you can do one of them at a time. 60hps cannot save a team, the damage in this game and the average ttk is 2 seconds.
Thats a blatant lie; mercy can fly, self heal and do better damage in her ult, which are definitely benefits. Thats more than Ana gets
When she does damage, does anybody on her team gets healed or get a damage boost? does she herself get the damage boost benefit? She is just a flying mercy with a pistol
But is she not benefitting from it? Right then.
Idk what you are saying. Would you rather your team face a nanoblade or a flying mercy.
That is completely irrelevant; mercy can actually benefit personally from her ult, no matter how valuable u think it is tactically
It’s not when the benefit is minimal and something she doesn’t need as a HEALER. Hey I know, let’s remove valk and give her an ult that temporarily increases her hp to 201. Oooh She benefited from it. Checkmate mercy mains.
but she already has a supercharger?
going into valkyrie and right click?
not only that. she can fly aswell >_<
Fixed that for you…
I 100% agree with OP. That would make perfect sense for both Mercy and Orisa. Minus the flying part. Just make Orisa beefier and faster while using the ultimate, give her a tool to contend with brawlers: The ultimate ability. Instead of her ult being a confused mess not suited for a tank but rather for a support character.
And as for Mercy, that is what her Right click does already, except it holds and used for everyone in range. I like this. And it adds more utility to “support” instead of support meaning aka healer, strictly. Utility support needs to be a thing, because it adds more depth to the game and is fun. And this too is the reason why GOATs is a thing now.
Sounds like you want to play Zen, Lucio, or Ana then. Did you know you can change your hero in the spawn room? Try it out!
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Op is talking crazy talk. Orisa’s ult is fine. Especially on defense. I’ve saved a couple of games using it. Enemies dive the point, throw down the boom box and let the party begin.
I dont really have much to say about Mercy’s ult tho. I mostly use it to kill Phara’s or people on high ground. Kind of underwhelming.