Moira is in no way an AoE healer,
Just because she can spray multiple targets at once and give them a small healing buff doesn’t mean she’s an AoE healer.
Moira is in no way an AoE healer,
Just because she can spray multiple targets at once and give them a small healing buff doesn’t mean she’s an AoE healer.
do you even know what aoe is?
mercy is a single target healer, she cannot heal more than one player at a time while moira can heal everyone on the team within her range which is called AOE same as lucio
AoE - Area of Effect -> this is basically Lucio’s healing aura or Brig’s passive ability. Moira’s healing is not an AoE ability.
moira area of effect is 6 or more meters in front of her
she is a aoe healer, have you heard of goats composition? if mercy was used instead of moira they would all die because she only heals one at a time
moira is the best raw healer in the game but its balanced because its on resource meter and she is limited by range
According to the devs as of the most recent major patch, yes, she is.
I’ve done similar with Moira, and done absolutely fine.
Moira has a primary which has the same reach has Mercy’s, and does 80HPS with a 50HPS falloff (yes, her FALLOFF is the same as Mercy’s PRIMARY). She also has her 75HPS orb, and heals herself for 30HPS, which is also uninterruptible unlike Mercy’s interruptible 20HPS.
It’s almost like Moira’s numbers are stupid high, and she can easily survive in a given situation because she does a lot of self healing, and has an ability that essentially makes her invincible for a moment and can throw off the enemy.
Your “Moira is damaging and not healing” statement is also false. She can use either orb and then do the opposite with her primary. Mercy also never even has the time to damage boost anymore because she has to heal all of the time. So that point is also invalid.
you completely jumped over “consistently”
mercy heals more consistently than moira but she does not heal more than moira. moira’s healing is not limited to a single target like mercy, she can heal everyone in the team at the same time but its not consistent.
mercy basically heals all the time in a match compared to moira who is limited by range, resource, duels or shield etc
Can you actually not read?
“Consistently pump out more healing over the course of a match” =/= not heal more than Moira. Read it again.
Half the roster will always have a win rate below 50%. You need to allow a range for non-niche heroes (say 48% to 52% - unsure what it should be) or no hero would ever be balanced in your book. Any time a hero is nerfed, their winrate will be below 50% while one tricks who don’t change heroes fall to their new rank. Once that settles, I imagine we’ll see a stable win rate over 49% like most other heroes. Mercy probably has more one tricks than any other hero who will refuse to accept that heroes are not meant to excel on every map and who will still play her on every map, so I’d expect it to take a bit longer to stabilize than most buffs/nerfs.
I imagine they decreased hps by 10 to make sure it was significant enough. After multiple nerfs, they probably wanted to err on the side of over-nerfing and then bring her back up 5 than to nerf her 5, find out it wasn’t enough, and then nerf her 5 again.
You’re twisting the words.
“Consistently pump out more healing than any other healer over the course of the match”
That doesn’t mean “Oh she can heal consistently in a single fight”, it literally means she’s supposed to be constantly healing more than anyone else in the overall match. She’s supposed to get that gold, she’s supposed to get the highest averages, because she’s supposed to consistently get the higher number by the end of the match.
Also, from the same post:
Again, Mercy is supposed to be the pick you choose if you want strong heals, not Moira, who’s intended to be more of a flex pick. Yet Moira seems to be the one outdoing the supposed “go-to healer” in healing.
I’ll agree with what you said before, how team comps also are a factor that we can’t just ignore. But overall, Mercy should not be healing less than anybody.
I’d like to pop into this discussion and ask you why you believe it is so?
Mercy is by no means unbalanced simply cause her resurrect is on a basic ability.
then i don’t know what the devs are on about because mercy does not heal more than moira even back when she healed 60hps where mercy was considered to be the best healer
mercy is not the pick you choose for “strong heals” she never was, you picked her because of the consistency in healing everyone in the team.
consistency beats the raw healing from ana and moira because of the different things that blocks their healing. the nerf was a reasonable one
I was only outhealed by 1-2 Moira’s before the nerf because I was good with prioritization and ult timing… Yes, Moira has always been better for raw healing. I’ve been saying that for a while, actually. That’s why this nerf made absolutely no sense to me. It wasn’t really justified, in my opinion. Maybe when compared to the other supports, just not Moira. Maybe she needs to be toned down with Mercy, but that would only result in more frustration.
Moira is actually pretty fun to play. I’ve slowly been switching over to her, but I still hate what’s happening to Mercy.
I wish it wasn’t. I really wish it wasn’t. This never would have happened if Rez was t a basic ability.
Her original purpose has been lost somewhere in the abyss because the devs are so focused on keeping Rez in the game. But in order to do that, they’ve completely murdered her original purpose.* it’s kind of sad.
the nerf to mercy was to bring her down to their level
before the nerf mercy was simply the best healer in most situations, she could use some tuning but overall she is more balanced now.
I personally think that she could use a rework. Not even a revert, the devs have demonstrated that they don’t know how to handle Rez. She’s no longer able to fulfill her main role due to this nerf. The issue is her Rez.
I think Jeff needs to keep his promise, here. No one has benefitted from this rework.
Ana is a better pick now?
Insightful, but it doesn’t answer my question.
In terms of healing averages, not really. But I would say yes. <3
I like the Nano buff. I’ve been using it religiously whereas before I kind of waited too long… lol…
They key word is consistently.
Mercy still does the most healing (overall) from the data I’ve seen.
Ana etc have more raw healing power but consistency is bad.
The statement they made is still true.