Oh really now? What about the people that blame their teammates all the time because they think it’s not their fault? In fact, you can see this now. A lot of people that don’t use stats blame their teammates all the time. These people also use the gold medal system to determine if the stats they have are any good.
Doing 6K damage on Junkrat in 14 minutes is good even if you have Gold Damage. That just means that your entire team played bad including you. However, people would look at those Golds and won’t even consider it was their fault. They are dropping because of bad teammates. So… SR being stagnant or dropping isn’t an indicator to ignorant people that it’s their fault
Meh…it’s a tool yes…that has way more uses on forums than it does for the actual game…In game I think it’s done more harm than good over the years with how people use that info…
I can ask the same question here…what would be the real loss of not having it…All we can really do with it is argue…the people who that info is really useful for already get that info elsewhere
There’s no silver bullet to these stats though. There are plenty of reasons why your game may be affected, you could even be doing fine in these categories, but you may still find yourself struggling.
You could have good positioning, but have no idea how to utilise it. You could be a good teamplayer, but have no idea on how to effectively utilise your comms & synergy, You may be high on confidence yet still be struggling to decisively win 1v1s.
Wait what? WDYM “in game” ?
That is literally the problem. We DONT have Scoreboards in game. They are HIDING the data. We also have private profiles that hide data from the players. Whats next ridiculous thing? Hiding the levels? Hiding the name? Streamer mode?
… all because some people can’t handle criticism or get their feelings hurt.
Cool.
The real loss is clear because we dont have them.
The real loss is that the problem, the main problem, arguably the BIGGEST problem Overwatch has, will still be there in OW2: Due to the lack of scoreboards/accurate data people win or lose games and often times don’t really know why.
Thank god they added Replays three years later … not that more than 5% of the players use them but well.
PS: Tanks and Supports specially “hide” behind the lack of information, this is not good. Not good at all. Hiding data is NEVER good.
stat tracking a dead pvp game will only provide innacurate results. I am pretty sure even if blizzard give the offical stats it will be close to overbuff’s because the players are too low
Those people would still be there…blaming teammates is a staple of online gameplay…I doubt that would change…
We have other tools as well To gauge our play…cards, replays, We can watch good people playing the game…
I’d be down for more info in game…but to your point…we don’t get that from OB either…the info that would really be useful for you as a player isn’t shown on there…the replays you mentioned are a faaaaaaaaar better tool for that
So again what would lose really? It would be a loss for the forums for sure…but as a player? Whoopdeedoo
Of course it’s not. Stats have never been the end all/be all. It’s important info that has significant weight though. The more stats you have the more weight it has. Nothing is better than tape. Everyone knows this but stats are very important
But then again, it comes to preference dude. You HAVE to understand that.
Theres people that literally doesnt know how some heroes work and are level … 500 ? Because they dont care.
Following that logic : Should we remove tool tips and explanations of skills in game? Why not? What do we lose? The ones that want to know this will figure it out, right?
We lose valuable information about how the game is doing. What is happening in what rank, how the balance changes affect the hero picks and what seems to be working well more often (metas) than other things.
You may not be interested in that, fine, but many many many many others are.
So again, the big question is : Why are you so interested in deleting it?
What is this trend of outrage cancel culture? It all follows the same pointless and entitled principle: “I dont like this, delete it so nobody can enjoy it”.
Just dont look at the web. Easy solution for you. Why do we ALL have to lose it because a few dont like it? What a pointless stance (no offense).
Because like I said I think it has done actual harm before (see my first reply)…it’s misuse has led to countless arguing and bickering (I heard somewhere OW has a very toxic community)…its veracity is always a question since the profile change…and it’s benefits are minuscule at best (and blizz doesn’t need it)
Like yeah it’s info…but Is it REALLY useful? I guess…what would we lose really?
That can be said about any tool, like I demonstrated. Doesnt make it a valid point to absolutely CANCEL or DELETE anything.
You dont have anything against the website, but the people that misuse it, thats on them.
Yes its really useful. Im not going to repeat myself, its all on my comment.
We are done here
HIGHLY useful information thats empirical, always accurate and never misused im sure…
like i said…GREAT for forums…useless for the devs…and for the game/players?..ultimately how others play the game doesnt mean much when youre the one behind the controls…your stats page is 10000x more useful than anything youll find on that website
Good arguments? Knowing how the game works? Understanding that genji is actually a pretty bad hero rn but his pickrate doesn’t reflect that because he’s fun, using inaccurate stats doesn’t mean much
it can be accurate…doesnt matter…we all spin data to prove our “points”…
i mentioned it earlier…but ill link now…i invite everyone to read through this…specifically the middle portion where he/she is talking to the community about the stuff you find on OB
ultimately what does it matter though…if the enemy team’s genji is destroying my team…me switching to some meta hero that i have no idea how to play isnt going to make things any better…doesnt matter what %'s are shown on some website
stats are fine to a degree…you still have to play the game…
GOATS is meta…well i just destroyed a goats team playing a trash doomfist hero…congratulations…goats is meta
you should play ana…she has the highest winrate in the game…well im a trash ana and cant aim…sure i guess…wheres my healing!!!
Genji finds it difficult to do his job, finishing off kills. With his firerate nerf primarily if you don’t hit all headshots +dash on a weak target you won’t be able to finish the kill and be stranded out of position and killed, this leads to genji primarily being used to poke, build ult and break hard to break points like hanamura and volsk, a much healthier option for genji would be to transfer power from blade into his neutral game to allow him to feel impactful in more situations and not oppressive when the blade comes out for newer players.
No stats needed, overbuff can be used for very general stats within 1% accuracy but anymore than that is a hard sell, there’s too many factors that create a skew in an opt in system
if im climbing and doing well regardless of whats on there…or plummeting when i shouldnt be…what difference does it make if a website says whatever…
its great for debating and discussions like we have on here all the time…but ultimately doesnt mean much in game…people place way too much value on what they see on there…its not really THAT useful…the game is much MUCH more complicated than what you see on there
