Fed up with LGBT thread hijacking

[Hokutoshin-1283]

http://cdn.smosh.com/wp-content/uploads/bloguploads/u-mad-2.jpg

[Cubic-21786]

I did one and got suspended for a day

[Naz-11562]

Why is this flagged? It’s all tea henny

[ｕｗｕ-1374]

Please explain how a first person shooter character’s sexuality is relevant in any way to the gameplay. Seriously, the devs already do a really poor job at balancing most heroes and making the meta consistent, you want them to waste time with things like this?

[Naz-11562]

Good thing the general discussion board also covers lore, under which a character’s sexuality falls under.

[TheMelon-11506]

Seriously, the devs already do a really poor job at balancing most heroes and making the meta consistent, you want them to waste time with things like this?

Getting real tired of telling people how the people who work on balance, don’t work on things like this

It’s a common sense thing really

[Cubic-21786]

What’s the point of saying you’re gay in the first place, never heard of people coming on the forums and randomly commenting “yeah I’m straight”

[ｕｗｕ-1374]

Doesn’t change the fact that they clearly need more active people who play and understand the game and their characters at a high enough level working on balancing. There is no point in having extra money dedicated to irrelevant things like this when the game’s balance is complete trash and they don’t know what to do with most heroes.

[Naz-11562]

Psst, the writing team already exists and is different than the balancing team. Furthermore, we’re capable of being concerned about multiple things at once! For instance, I want more gay characters AND I want Hanzo to be balanced!

[sumstratTTV-2931]

Looks like someone who wants to feel special and be treated in a special way.
I bet everywhere he goes he just plants a flag and says “This is my special place now, for me and my people !”

[Beliyal-2469]

There have been trolls since the dawn of time, the snowflake generation on the other hand is fairly new.

That’s a big lol my friend. These, as you call them, “snowflakes” or, as I call them, people who got tired of being discriminated, oppressed and abused have always existed. It’s just that in the past, we’d get murdered if we said anything about it, while today we can actually speak against oppression in relative safety. I’m not really sorry if speaking against oppression bothers you. Seems to me the real snowflakes here are people who get offended when their position of power is challenged.

“But I used to be able to troll and abuse people and face no consequences! These snowflakes are ruining our civilisation!”

[Cubic-21786]

Saying “make genji gay” won’t exactly mean you’ll get less discrimination

[DrClan-1789]

Most people who go into these threads are just saying “I don’t care if a hero is gay, as long as it is handled well, like Tracer” and the peoplle who started the post hear “I don’t want any gay hero’s in the game!”, leading to a massive argument over a miss interpretation, which will quickly fall into insults and stupidity on both sides.

[Xoxin-1445]

Between the arguments and replies in the first post, it’s like every LGBT thread summed up(well, at least for the first couple “pages” or so).

Could this be it, folks??? Could…could this be the fabled LGBT megathread?

[Cubic-21786]

Lgbt megathread number 14

[Araxen-1172]

The entire situation has turned into a meme now. I’m seeing it a ton in Twitch chat. Is such and such LBGT?

[ComposedJam-1198]

You don’t care about LGBT heroes.

Straw-man. Not wanting them shoehorned into a game is caring about them, in a way.

But you click on every single thread, read every single thread, flag every single thread, and comment and argue back and forth in every single thread just to let eveyone know you dont care.

If you REALLY don’t care then stop butting into the conversation.

If you REALLY don’t care, then stop trying to shutdown any and all talk amoung people who DO care.

Another straw-man.
We care, that’s why we’re butting in. To make sure our voice is heard on this issue. Because we care about characters being added simply to pander to a very, very small, but vocal, minority.

If you were really truly proud of your sexuality wouldn’t you not need to be validated by arbitrary representation? Not one of the posters has honestly answered this question.

This isnt a real reason. Being LGBT is just another trait like having brown hair or being tall.

Soldier doesnt hop around in game going “I’m white! Look it is I, Jack Morrison, just your normal everyday white man!! Haha!” With voicelines about white american stereotypes and skins to accentuate his white-maleness does he?

No. He doesn’t.

And neither does any other character. You have 0 reason to believe this other than the fact that you’re reaching for one, trying to create a problem that doesn’t exist purely for the sake of it.

Just because you don’t accept it as a reason doesn’t make it not a reason. People don’t want forced diversity and that’s perfectly fine. We’re not reaching for anything and we’re not creating any problem where there isn’t one.

We perceive a subset of the community that thinks, for some reason, that they deserve to be pandered too instead of the thousands of other minorities that have, literally, no representation whilst the mascot of the game is gay.

“It’s not realistc. 00.655393% of the world–”

This game has a talking gorilla, a cyborg ninja that summons a dragon, a hamster piloting an assault droid, a mexican woman who hacks people , an angry deadpool, a woman that sucks the life from people and another that revives the dead , and a robotic monk that reached nirvanna.

This is like when people argue “historical accuracy uwu” as a reason for not having people of color in fantasy works when there’s DRAGONS and WIZARDS and everything else that didn’t actually exist in ye olden times; because its a fantasy world where that argument holds no water. Its just people cherry-picking what’s “ok” to have and what isnt based on their own delicate sensibilities.

Try again.

Very well, I will try again and very successfully. Although your bias and position will, inevitably, prevent you from seeing or accepting this.

The “realistic” argument is bunk, you’re right, but the argument that isn’t bunk is:
let the devs make the game they want and they will add whatever diversity they want.
By your own examples we see the game is very diverse. Why add another LGBT hero when we could make it more diverse by adding something else? Say, an atheist hero?

“Let blizzard do it on their own time!”

They said there was multiple lgbt heroes. At launch. Asking “hey, when are we going to learn who the other heroes are?” isn’t forcing them to do anything. Its asking a question. It’s no different then asking when the next hero or map or comic or lore will come out yet you have 0 problems with people asking about that

Right, and not all heroes are released. They already announced the mascot of the game is gay. Yet that isn’t enough.
Every thread I see about this HINGES on this one quote.

Let them release it when they want to. You’re unfairly characterizing each of these threads as perfectly reasonably requests when most of them, that I see, are along the lines of a demand. Or it’s implied as a need when it isn’t a need.

“I DONT care I’m just tired of it clogging the forums!”

Oh really?
Do you also flag the “NERF ___” threads that clog the forums?

Or every single “IM TIRED OF ITS JUST QP” thread that clogs the forums?

Or all the “I’m Qutting OW!” threads that clog the forums?

Or all the “More lore ___” that clog the forums?

Nope. You don’t. Those threads are fine . Those threads can stay but whenever an lgbt person makes a thread going “hey so when will we know more about who the other heroes are?” Thats it. That’s the last freakin’ straw for you. That’s where you draw the line in the sand. That’s when you put your foot down and say enough is enough huh?

INTERESTING.

This is just another straw-man. You don’t know what other people flag. I’m tired of these threads clogging the forums, but I’ve never flagged any post. Also, I have never seen one of these threads that was as simple as “hey so when will we know more about who the other heroes are?”.

You have to realize that most of these threads, yours included, are so far removed from this quote that it’s dishonest to even make the comparison.

Mercy threads were flooding the forums and they made a Mercy thread. They could easily do that with the LGBT hero suggestions.

“Diversity for the sake of it shouldnt–”

Diversity is a myth, as is the concept of “Forced diversity.” You’ve simply been conditioned to see a certain race, sexuality, and even gender as “normal” and dont bat an eye when a market is completely dominated and oversaturated with it; but anything outside of that draws attention.

That is why people are so angry at the new Star Wars movies having a black and female lead calling it “SJW PANDERING” when the very definition of pandering is what we could all the original trilogy AND the prequels— with nothing but white men and Princess Leia/Padme in the spotlight.

That is why people were angry at the new Ghostbusters featuring an all-female cast. If it were a remake with men-- it wouldn’t have received nearly as much backlash.

Walk down Times Square in new york at night and THAT is what the real world looks like. People of all different races, genders, and sexualities seamlessly co-existing.

Diversity is a myth and so is forced diversity? Oh man, lets keep reading.
Firstly, diversity is not a myth, to say otherwise is simply asinine. Groups of people look different and have distinct features that set them apart.
Mix these groups together and you get diversity.

FORCE these groups to mix and you have FORCED diversity.
Not a hard concept.

People were angry at the new ghost busters because it was an obvious attempt to pander to the feminist crowd and was generally a bad movie. People, strangely enough, don’t like politics in their movies.
The same is true for video games

Go figure.

You’re going to honestly claim that Times Square in New York is an accurate representation of what the world looks like?
When Japan is nearly 99% ethnic Japanese?
When some parts of Europe are nearly 100% white?
When many parts of Africa are nearly 100% black?

You’re not helping your case with spurious arguments and comparisons like this.

So I’m bored of pointing out your straw-man arguments and fallacious comparisons. The rest of the post is equally unfounded.

LET THE DEVELOPERS DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR ART

STOP TELLING THEM WHAT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDN’T DO AND JUST LET THEM MAKE THE GAME PLEASE

[Lucky-14493]

So by your logic if I talk about my boyfriend or my life and in any way reveal I’m LGBT then it’s the equivalent of coming on the forums and saying “yah I’m straight”. You should really wear a helmet if you’re going to be practicing those kind of mental backflips.

[ShadowDragon-154694]

NO.

MAKE YOUR OWN POST. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

Have a nice night.

[Cubic-21786]

The way you said it it seemed like you meant the forums. You need to express yourself more clearly