Everyone is cheating in upper ranks. OW2 will be the same

Some people will do some crazy mental gymnastics to convince themselves that what they believe is true.

that’s true my friend.
the subscription for the cheats you need to play in GM is no more than 1USD per DAY!
this product is undetected for the past 2 YEARS!

nah… it just checks database of account names
how they maintain that database is another question… probably usersubmissions + overwatch themed websites (example h ttps://www.overbuff.com/live )

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where do you see this happening? i have no idea how you even see higher ranked games if your in them, with an attitude like that.

Are you in the upper ranks, OP? I’m not asking to discredit what you’re saying… but I bring it up because many lower ranked players simply cannot fathom just how skilled many higher ranked players are. To a lower rank, being that good appears no different than cheating.

Again, I’m not saying cheating doesn’t go on… but to make a blanket statement like “there’s a 99% chance they’re cheating” seems a bit disingenuous.

All that aside… what a weird way to spend your time, cheating in an online game. I don’t understand the satisfaction that would come from that. You certainly wouldn’t get it from winning, since you don’t even have to try, so I have to wonder if it just comes from that weird feeling of “tee hee, I’m cheating and they cant do anything about it tee hee!!”.

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I get a cheater about once in 40-50 games. Your statement is definitely wrong.

Seriously this is my first thought. How could that be fun? lol. It’s like…“auto kill, auto kill, auto kill,” how does that not get reaalllyy boring reaaalllyy quickly?

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As long as you dominate over others, it’s not boring.

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If you say so. Sounds pretty boring to me.

In this game, winning is everything, so how it can be boring?

In what game is winning everything? I’m assuming youre trying to say that is what players attitudes are…and saying it in a very weird way, but winning is not everything in this game or any game. And I think most people feel that way.

You can get away from them, just swap lobbies or go into an instanced mission and when you get out, you’ll be in a different lobby. With the amount of missions they have in the game now there’s almost no reason to actually be in free roam unless you are doing a trader or moonshine delivery. You can even hunt for Cripps via the legendary animal missions from Harriet—also instanced. All the new blood money missions are instanced, most infamous bounties are instanced, all legendary bounties are instanced.

I’ve encountered tons of modders in RDO but the thing is they can’t actually steal much from you other than a few minutes of time. If you’re doing a delivery and you get blown up, just instantly hit escape and swap servers. When you spawn back in, all your stuff will be back at camp.

I’m like level 350+ something or other in RDO on PC :stuck_out_tongue:

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In any game, winning is what people strive for… but it’s the effort you put into that win… the training before hand, the team work, the game sense. It’s all of that which, for most players, provides the satisfaction that comes from the win.

Now you might read that and think “yeah but I put effort into finding this cheat I’m using and no one knows I’m using it, and that is the fun part to me!” Which is fine, your opinion is your opinion (also that is just an example, I’m not calling you a cheater).

But winning with zero effort? Just seems hollow and fruitless. If I cheated my way all the way into grand master I’d feel like a fraud and a phony. I’d pretty much hit the top and very quickly get bored and move onto another title.

And then there’s the obvious point: It ruins the integrity of the game for those who are playing as intended.

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It’s what competitive games are. In casual games, winning is optional.

Not at all. Fun is what people strive for. Winning can or can not be part of it.

You can call it “played smart”. Of course, you could sweat yourself like no tomorrow to achieve such quick reflexes, but you already have computer, that acts even faster, than you.

Who cares? You made it there, and that’s what matters. Maybe you bought such account; maybe you paid booster; maybe you even spent night with Blizzard employee to get there - you are there now.

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Okay, but level with me here… if I gave you the option of “hey you can play 10 games of OW and lose all of them” or “hey you can play 10 games of OW and there’s a chance you’ll win half or more of them”… surely you’d pick the 2nd option right? Winning isn’t everything, but it’s a big part, no? Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for the “it’s not about winning or losing, it’s how you play the game” mindset, but winning is always the outcome I try to achieve.

I’d care, and that is what matters most to me, because I’d feel like crap knowing I inconvenienced other players in a game we all paid for, but I paid a little bit extra on the side to always secretly win. I don’t like pay to win scenarios.

Depends if I enjoy it. If, for instance, Mercy won’t work with guarantee in those games, I would pick first option.

Well, that’s you. I do not care at all, how players deliver results, only about results itself. If I boost you and you kill enemies, that’s all I need from you, and it’s none of my business, if you are genuinely that good or use cheats.

Well, if it clashes with fun, then winning goes out the window.

Hey that’s your opinion and that’s cool if we’re talking about video games, just please never go into politics :rofl:

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Why would I go into politics, when they are filled already with people like me? That would shake hands with environment activists at morning and accept bribes from factory owners at evening.

For anyone who is trying to gaslight OP that cheating doesn’t exist or rarely happens or only happens in their head, check this out: Overwatch Bans: August 2021 Update

Gaslighting isn’t cool. Cheating is absolutely a major issue in this game.

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Exactly this. Cheaters are not winning every round unless they ragehack. When people say “I’ve only seen a cheater a couple times ever” ect, those are ragehackers.

When you play cheats with default settings what they do is make you a better player. That’s it. They don’t make you the best player, they don’t make a good player, they make bad players better.

The aimbot is not even the problem in upper ranks. It’s the wallhack. Knowing where everyone is in a game where strategy and positioning is so important is just broken. There is a reason it’s Widows ult and only up a brief time, it’s very strong.

Once you get to the point where 2+ people ON BOTH TEAMS are cheating, it gets much harder for non cheaters. So much so that they drop rank or quit… this is why everyone good is gone.
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