This guy gets it <20>
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Obviously gaslighting isn’t cool… people are just asking him to “show his work”, so to speak lol… plus I don’t think there is anyone in here straight up saying “cheating DOESNT happen in this game” haha.
It’s not gaslighting to to ask someone to defend the points they’re making… that’s all i’m saying 
That’s a weird claim. Why do you think other games would have a higher percentage of cheaters?
Nobody is saying cheating doesn’t exist. But I will stand by my own stance (not something I said in this thread in particular to OP, but in general) that cheating is indeed quite rare. If your proof is that they banned 18k accounts… dude that’s like nothing. There are millions of active accounts in the game.
The only people gaslighting are the ones constantly trying to accuse anyone better than they are of cheating. If you want to make a claim as drastic as “99% of ‘smurfs’ are actually just cheaters” then you need some evidence to back up that statement.
Tell me you are mad that you have no self-control when you go on a losing streak without telling me you’re mad.
Where’s the evidence of this at all? 15 posts, probably a smurf/alt themselves. Not buying it.
Story from the archives: I was admin for a public server community in CS 1.6 in the mid 00’s, i play fps games for 20 years now. I have seen many many cheats working in my life.
Everytime Steam rolled out new VAC versions or a 3rd party anticheat tool was updated huge chunks of the playerbase disappeared. It took a few days or sometimes weeks to get ways around it. Sometimes the coders made mistakes, like the black pixel border one for control screenshots in ladder control tools, leagues had to ban up 25% percent from the playerbase. It was insane… My guess is Overwatch has a solid two digit percantage of the playerbase which is cheating. Its not always an aimbot, for a tankplayer a simple ultracker can change the whole game.
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Money this money that on a dead game. Players spending tons of money just to get in high ranks.
I came across to this video and I’m not surprised that this video has a high positive ratio. The comments describe the playerbase: 
UPDATED OVERWATCH FREE HACK 
WALLHACK AIMBOT AND RADAR - Review and Download - YouTube
Edit: It’s a YouTube video link not something else.
Guaranteed your response will be ignored. This is a troll post.
Not a weird claim at all if you follow former OW streamers that play such games now.
It’s not really even the game dev’s fault either – as I stated earlier – the more popular the game, the more popular the cheats. It’s a constant battle.
There are too many cheaters but as you said the aimbots are close to emulating human behaviour… so unless the aimbot is cracked or they’re using obvious wallhacks I don’t care. With cheating they’ll get how much, 500-800sr higher?
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Even t500 as seen above, it’s even more devious when people with a ounce of skill game sense use it subtly.
The aimbot duel was fun to watch lol
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The games being free helps a lot. Doesn’t hurt your back pocket and you can be back at on a new account with an hour.
Have you played Overwatch in the last year? Havent you seen the ten thousands of accounts under level 50? I mostly play quickplay, i see douzens and douzens new accounts under level 25 every night i play. These accounts are for smurfing, trolling, flaming and of course also cheating.
But every account is a few more dollars on Blizzards side, they have no intend to stop this.
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Cheating and smurfing are inevitable byproducts of competitive game - if there is competition, there are players, willing to break the rules in pursuit of victory.
Agreed. Which is why esports, competitive mode and streaming have been the worst blight upon gaming culture possible. It’s turned what was once a primarily for fun hobby into an overly serious for money job. There are also no real consequences to being caught. Large financial upsides and no negatives to cheating.
I can never play an online multiplayer game again and have any reasonable expectation that all participants are legitimate.
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OP isn’t wrong though, there is a higher number of cheaters than the community thinks. The issue is not only the presence of more “believeable”-looking aimbots, but also cheats that aren’t necessarily aimbots. Wall hacks and ult trackers are more common because they have less risk of being bannable, and there is no shortage of hacks for ability usage such as auto D.va matrix or Genji deflects. You can give yourself a massive advantage without needing to turn on an aimbot at all. I’d say that just about every player has gone up against someone using cheats and hasn’t even realized it, as long as they’ve played enough games.
Is it enough to stop you from climbing? Not at all. But like with the smurf problem, it causes comp to become an unfun slog. It’s causing players to leave comp in droves, whether they know if they’re up against a hacker or not. As it turns out, sucking the competitive nature and fun out of the competitive mode makes less players want to play it. I also imagine that cheaters are invested in rallying against “no skill” heroes because if the heroes that benefit most from cheating aren’t overtuned, then they might lose the imaginary number they’ve spent thousands of dollars on. You can buy headshots but you can’t buy braincells.
I can’t entirely blame the cheat developers though. The amount of money these idiots will shell out just to cheat in an online game is insane.
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Personally I can’t understand streaming. What is the point of watching someone else playing game and goofing around for your entertainment?
By itself esports isn’t very bad thing. Problems begin, if developers put it above everything else - as esport players have rather specific view of game, and not everyone has ambition to become one in the future.
Once I were offered a job to be game tester. It was promising job, but I decided not to do it, as otherwise I wouldn’t be able to enjoy games anymore. I didn’t want to launch game and instead of simply relaxing in it, find myself on subconscious level checking it for bugs.
Between Overwatch 2 and CoD Warzone’s fall update Activision/Blizzard is very confident about their upcoming anti-cheat systems. How it will be a much better anti-cheat system we’ll only know when it releases but clearly the devs are confident they’ll make a big dent into cheating. I hope it isn’t too intrusive (like the Ring-Zero stuff they pulled by some other companies) so we’ll have to see what happens
I read his second longer post and it actually sounds decently legitimate to me. He may be phrasing things in a way that sounds hyperbolic a little bit [I’m sure not literally everyone is cheating, but it’s at a frequency that feels like everyone to him] but personally I’ve noticed a huge uptick in bots in -my- games in the last few months as well and it makes me more inclined to believe him.
The bots in my games are never very good, but they do move in a way that is obvious - and there are different ones, too. Some bots make a loop on the map randomly firing their guns, and they will shoot at an enemy if they are ‘on the loop’. Some don’t shoot at anyone at all though, I used to think that they were players just throwing but honestly I bet it’s people with bot accounts trying to do something with that specific account to sell it or derank it or whatever.