we are talking about software remember? dont change the topic
No. Weâre talking about being able to limit the advantages of better hardware within software. The whole point of this thread is that âevery player equally equippedâ should apply to both hardware and software.
There may be ways of limiting the advantage a better mouse gives you - for instance, have the game read the specs of the mouse plugged in and add the desired amount of input delay to the user. I havenât looked into that.
The standards you proposed such as 30FPS would still leave some of the players out. If one single player can only get 10FPS, then youâd have to limit to 10FPS for the entire playerbase. Where do you make the cutoff point?
This post is the perfect example as to why the devs donât visit these forums to often.
You are right. we must have 10 fps max
You are right. we must have 10 fps max
In a world where Blizzard âstrives for a level playing fieldâ - yes. Their claim therefore must be incorrect as we know thatâd never happen. (Why stop at 10 though? One person may only get 1FPS, 360p).
Then no one would play the game.
Stop nitpicking already. Something just arenât allowed.
What would you have blizzard do? Seriously
Then no one would play the game.
Correct - which is why a level playing field is actually undesirable for Blizzard. Which means their claim of wanting âevery player equally equippedâ and âwe strive for a level playing fieldâ is dishonest. Which proves Iâm right.
Something just arenât allowed.
Thereâs a reason behind everything. This is discussion forum and weâre free to discuss Blizzardâs reasoning here. Or do you accept every rule or law in your life as always being correct without questioning anything ever? Weâd still be in the Dark Ages with that mentality.
What would you have blizzard do? Seriously
Retract or change their statement and be honest with us. Stop the double standard. If one thing that gives you an advantage isnât allowed why should other things that potentially give even greater advantages be allowed?
I think this whole thing is pointless
True equality will never be attained anywhere, people can still strive for it, but that doesnât mean they can achieve it
I donât see how this is an issue really, I donât see any bad things happening because they said what they said
Itâs just pointless
and? Iâm against the ban on pursuit and been giving the same example as you. If pursuit is banned why not logitech mouse software that allows you to have macros
Because having better hardware isnât cheating obviously. Itâs also quite clear that Blizzard cannot police it.
Beside that there are minimum requirements stated for the game and as long as you fullfill them youâre good to go.
What are you guys thinking? If having a better rig is a bannable offense then gaming hardware industry soon will be in the trash bin, because then itâd be bannable for every game, not only overwatch.
Just stop. Itâs a stupid argument.
Because having better hardware isnât cheating obviously. Itâs also quite clear that Blizzard cannot police it.
Cheating or not itâs a clear advantage. Something Blizzard claim to be against as they say players should be equally equipped.
Yes they can police it:
Frame lock
Res lock
Network lock
Etc
You are free to get a better rig. Itâs not cheating, so not bannable. Period.
You having a potato rig isnât other playerâs or Blizzardâs fault.
Thirdparty software however is an extension to the game itself.
Again: Itâs a dumb argument and itâs also very clear that noone serious will fall for it.
You are free to get a better rig. Itâs not cheating, so not bannable.
Free or not, cheating or not, bannable or not - itâs an advantage potentially much greater than the software they chose to ban. Since Blizzard claims they want âevery player equally equippedâ and even call it the âfoundation of good competitionâ, youâd expect them to be opposed to this advantage.
Thirdparty software however is an extension to the game itself.
Not necessarily. You could in theory save a VOD and put it through Pursuit after the fact. Itâd just analyse your recorded video the same way a human coach could do without hooking into any internal game process.
You have a special kind of resistance. Look: Your rig is bad? Buy a better one. Problem solved. They will not police something that you yourself can control. Again: Imagine the damage caused to the industry if suddenly every better PC is useless because game companies would lock FPS and so on. Go buy a better PC.
And yes, Thirdparty software is an extension in EVERY case, because an extension does not require to be interfering with gameplay; but drawing data (even pictures) from a live game because itâs somehow linked to the game is a violation of TOS.
Just deal with it my friend. Itâs bannable now and you cannot use it anymore. Blizzardâs not going to police hardware, because itâs up to you how much money you want to spend on it.
And now Iâm done with this ridiculous discussion. Itâs already pathetic enough that Iâm taking part in it. Get real dude. Bye
You have a special kind of resistance. Look: Your rig is bad? Buy a better one. Problem solved.
Your game analysis skills are lacking? Pursuit. Problem solved.
They will not police something that you yourself can control.
A person can also control the software on their computer such as the third party applications.
Again: Imagine the damage caused to the industry if suddenly every better PC is useless because game companies would lock FPS and so on. Go buy a better PC.
Of course it would damage the industry - but Blizzard has to accept that consequence, level playing field and all. If they donât lock FPS and so on, then theyâre not following up on their statement.
And yes, Thirdparty software is an extension in EVERY case, because an extension does not require to be interfering with gameplay; but drawing data (even pictures) from a live game because itâs somehow linked to the game is a violation of TOS.
Reread: I said âafter the factâ, ie. not a live game.
Blizzardâs not going to police hardware, because itâs up to you how much money you want to spend on it.
Blizzardâs not going to police third party software because itâs up to you if you decide to install it - oh wait, they do. See how the âup to youâ argument doesnât really work here?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I guess smoother since the 144hz and 60hz arenât exactly the same, but at the same time you can have 60hz and still be the same skill level as 144hz
Guy itâs right there, use of 3rd party applications that access software violate the TOS.
Also (because this irks me):
Even the difference between 60 and 120 is massive.
(In the video) The 60hz and 120hz were slowed down to 1/4 of the speed.
Youâre literally watching the difference between 15fps and 30fps. Also worth noting he mentioned that he synced his high-speed camera to his 120hz monitor, donât you think it might make a difference in screen tearing? Itâs basically what v-sync does to remove tearing when youâre playing a game.
Just look it up.
The problem is you compare two things that arenât the same at all. You might think so, because you shove them both into the âcategoryâ you want them to be seen in, just so you can raise an argument of inconsistency on behalf of Blizzardâs decision. So you come up with this idea, that one also has to say B when saying A - which is always the dull wisdom of people in denial - and then act like you got some real philosophical or morale insight when in reality itâs just a childish grudge you cannot get over with. Thirdparty software has almost always been a violation of TOS in any game while hardware advantages are just well known natural occurrences in this vicinity which had been tolerated since always, but you act like itâs something totally new and evil. Make no mistake, seeing through this doesnât require any elaborate thinking process, itâs just common sense.