Chipsa talks about the PTR DF nerfs

When people complained about right click being OP, Doomfist players were really quick to point out that it’s mostly used for mobility, and slam is more reliable…
So which is it?

fine you want brandito?

Here:Doomfist seismic slam distance reduction sends him to F tier and then some

he already talked about how if the slam nerfs alone go through that DF will be F tier

Widow can end you immediately at any distance. Hook and Venom Mine are both selfish abilities that only benefit Widow.

Reins shield benefits himself, but is mostly to, yknow, tank for his team. His firestrike is one of his only reliable ways of getting ult charge. Again. Apples to oranges. Or in Widows case, blueberries.

I didn’t say weak. Weaker. Dooms kit is becoming weaker because it’s too strong coupled with the fact that his punch is basically a free kill on any squishy with no mobility or real defensive options.

Even immobile heroes can move away from Reins charge. Even if he’s basically close range. That is a massive difference in power levels.

Thats what i thought but I’m terrible at Doomfist even now. He just doesn’t click for me and probably never will. So I figured I would ask.

Okay, he actually got a damage fall off, which I forgot about.
So he no longer has along range shotgun I guess.

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He needs to stand still for 1 second

He yells loudly

He can only travel horizontally

He needs to hit you into a wall

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Ya I noticed that while watching the video, I could have sworn they made it smaller but I wasn’t sure. Thank you for clarifying!

Maybe you could summarize the video for others who don’t want to watch the full thing. It’s basically 15 minutes long but is mostly him repeating himself.

tl;dw: The nerfs have probably made him less fun for the DF player, the nerfs potentially make DF unviable, rocket punch is the one ability he believes should have been nerfed and it’s not been touched.

It’s kinda OP. Tbh any one-shot that isn’t a headshot or ult is a problem. Even Rein in his own way and that is way less powerful/reliable than Dooms. It was not however so OP as to need major work done to it. It wasn’t perfect but it was fine.

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I like how you left out the immobile hero part to try to make a point that falls on its face without the full quote. Quite the cherry picker you are.

Saying he can’t get a read on the punch is like saying projectile heroes can’t get a read on a moving target, which we both know isn’t the case.

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Being loud alone doesn’t mean there is a counter play.
It’s really hard to avoid even when you know he is coming, due to his big ability hitboxes.

What hero has both no mobility nor defensive options?

Stand on a box, use cover. If you hear him don’t peak the corner.

See my previous message

Zenyatta is one example

This is why you cant make doomfist or briggite threads, salty people who refuse to adapt to the hero or switch off will come and say stuff like

“LUL BIASED X MAIN”
“finally game playable again”
“F tier, where he diserves to be”
“Nerf more, not enough until he´s useless”

Again…i think it would be much better to get a group of people and start up a Overwatch: debate discord, where we can debate stuff in between people who arent super bias all the time… The devs dont read anything we say anyways, so we might as well talk within ourselves

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Discord and HS.

I got 70 hours on Zenyatta, I know you can deal with RP.

Three off the top of my head? Zen, Ana, and Sym. Ana could sleep him, sure, but that’s just a matter of the callout “Ana no sleep” or simply waiting until you know she’s used it. Zen could volley him but we both likely know what a rarity that is. As for Sym, theres only a few heroes she can reactively use her TP to escape from, and Doom is not one of them. Unless you’re literally sitting on it 24/7, he’s going to slam and kill you. Hell, even his slam will make you incapable of using the TP even if you’re on top of it.

Originally she could stop the punch with TP, but that hurt DF players feelings too much that they couldn’t oneshot a hero that’s a free kill for him without the punch :’’’’((((((( so they patched it out.

That’s not a defensive move. That’s offensive. And Doomfist can have enough hp to make it an unrealistic option.

Doomfist should be a counter to monkey dva. He shouldn’t be flanking. He’s a mobile tank counter. Tracer and genji already exist

He’s the only hero in the game who is stronger vs monkey dva than he is against the other tanks. The ONLY one