IMO, they should give back headshots on his minigun, and give back the bonus armour on his ultimate.
There was absolutely no reason to remove headshots from his minigun, and they removed the bonus armour from his ultimate because of the old -35% damage Ironclad passive, which has since been nerfed to oblivion.
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Bastion was designed to pick of heroes… any heroes with his DPS at the risk for being very immobile and aimintensive.
They reworked him to make him more defensive and harder to kill but people cryed one week and he got nerfed very hard and got nothing back. Since then he is considert a trollpick and useing him outside of junkertown is seen as throwing.
Alone this is enought to say that he need buffs or another rework. His state in the moment is pretty weak and complete team depenent. If your complete team works with you he is just viable. Just viable on a spacial map with good teammates. That is not a niche thats an underpowered hero.
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This. I think people just assume you’re gonna solo a team.
your wrong , we don’t want bastion to solo a team we want him to be more viable and not so easy to counter…
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buffing bastion is a problem
imagine if they buffed his turret form, he would be broken because his damage is too high
he is a niche pick for a reason he is not supposed to work on most comps, you could nerf his damage and make him survive better but then again why would you do that when soldier exists?
every game has Brig now, Bastion with extra armor and a team built around the two is a very sound defensive strategy. especially since you almost can’t dive anymore. winston is dead if the team has a brig. even deader if they have a torb. Genji ulting on a 525 hp bastion is hilarious.
the point is that bastion is way too dependant on beinh shielded , i don’t want him to have more damage but to have an escape ability or something to make him more usefull , even if he would receive a turret buff there would be still the counters that can easily destroy him
why should they give a hero with the most damage in the game escape ability?
you need to balance his damage if you want him to survive without a shield
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this is a team game, relying on your teammates is part of that. bastion is a stationary turret who can get up and walk away while healing. that alone is an escape, albeit a softer one than say moira’s.
HP stacking is not that strong and wow he is maybe viable AGAIn if THE HOLE TEAM IS BUILD AROUND IT. Its not like that some people would love to play him again. Give him the sold sentry back and thats it. -50% spread and headsots. You have to aim better but burst down heroes faster and he can snipe pharahs again.
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the damage output is low , keep in mind that hes got big spread and damage dropoff that makes him deal a wholla less damage if you are a small dps without a big hitbox like 10-15 meters away from him
That is not a escape its called: movement. Blink, Fade, Dash, Charge are escapes. Bastion has 0.
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Bastion is way too much relying on the team , if the rein dies you are probably dead , heroes like soldier , genji , widow , etc aren’t so relying on their team and are preety viable in comparison to bastion,
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Those are all heroes that are basically designed to go it alone, even their lore is like that. Bastion is not that. He’s a slow heavy high damage stationary hero. This is kinda like saying mei should be able to do a back flip escape.
i play bastion a lot
bastion is pretty weak and strong at the same time, you can burst down entire team within seconds if they don’t focus you so how would you call it balanced to buff him to survive but not nerf his damage output?
i would love to see him survive but not be so op he can kill entire team by himself within seconds
Slow but easy to kill atleast his turret should be more damage dealing to payoff for no mobility which makes bastion an extremly easy target
Ironclad really needs to be at 25%.
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Thats the sneaky bastion meta but thats preety hard to do and also 90% teams are going to focus as soon as they see you in comp so hes still preety weak …
Do you played him at launch he was also weak then but he was fun. All we wanted was faster transformation. Thats it. Give us the old sentry back and ok. Bastions damage need to come back because in the moment he is a joke. You are target no1 as bastion. I also dont want a escape but he needs somthing. he is all about damage and they nerfed it. They need to give it back to make him worth playing again.
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given that he can be shot at take damage get up and walk away while healing and come back with full health and armor is the very definition of escape. he did not die. i did say soft escape. Bastion is not known for agility, giving him an escape on par with fade or hanzo’s new leap would be insane.