Well I really think Bastion needs is stopping power. Honestly just give him the headshot multiplier and allow him to stay in turret when hooked might be a start. I never understood why the removed it it was one of those āWhatā moments same with Ana when the Nerfed her Ult removing the speed buff that went with it it made it seem more like Mercyās empower than its own ult.
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It was because of the stupid Tracerās that kept walking directly into him while he was shooting and were surprised when they died for the 5th time.
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Hey, donāt let he inturept this debate, but since this is the new Bastion megathread, I feel obligated to put my personal rework for him here. It would also go along with other buffs to sentry and QoL changes to selfrepair. The name was suggested by MrHyde.
Configuration appache: new E ability which transforms Bastion into a flying from.
Same move ment controls as Mercyās Valkyrie
1 second cast time
40 amuntion
Same fire rate as recon
100 DPS
Falloff begins at 30 meters
horizontal movement speed is 5 meters per second, standard is 5.5 for all other heros
Vertical movement speed is the same as a Mercy using Valkyrie
Ironclad is not applied on this configuration
Bastion can switch directly between appache and his other configurations
Critical hitbox is the same as sentry mode, but is located at the top back of the configuration
The point of this mode is to make Bastion more adaptable, having a form for almost any situation, with his damage and mobility being directly proportionate.
Sentry: high damage no mobility
Recon: average damage average mobility
Appache: low damage high mobility
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Soldierās rockets deal 120 with a direct hit, the same is true for Pharaās rockets Junkratās grenades, and Junkratās mine.
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Sentries falling from the sky!
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I updated my chart for 45 and 50 meter ranges. Spoiler, heās really bad at those rangesā¦
Training dummy stats
| Distance | Tests | RTK | Std Dev | TTK | DPS | DPR | Miss | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0m | 0 | 13.3 | 0 | 0.44 | 450 | 15 | 0% | 0'0" |
| 20m | 50 | 20.7 | 1.71 | 0.69 | 290.42 | 9.68 | 35.5% | 3'5" |
| 25m | 50 | 26.5 | 2.98 | 0.88 | 226.76 | 7.56 | 49.6% | 4'3" |
| 30m | 50 | 30.6 | 4.16 | 1.02 | 195.69 | 6.52 | 56.5% | 5'2" |
| 35m | 50 | 43.5 | 9.19 | 1.45 | 137.87 | 4.60 | 69.4% | 6'0" |
| 40m | 50 | 50.6 | 9.13 | 1.69 | 118.48 | 3.95 | 73.7% | 6'10" |
| 45m | 50 | 65.2 | 9.64 | 2.17 | 92.02 | 3.07 | 79.6% | 7'9" |
| 50m | 50 | 78.9 | 12.28 | 2.63 | 76.06 | 2.54 | 83.1% | 8'7" |
RTK: Rounds to kill (measured in bullets)
TTK: Time to kill (measured in seconds)
DPS: Damage per second (measured in damage / 1 second)
DPR: Damage per round equivalent (total damage / rounds fired)
Miss: Percentage of bullets that missed (lower is better)
Spread: Diameter of the circle at the given distance (measured in feet)
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Are you going to test Soldier for those values, for a comparison?
I might, but Soldier is pretty differentā¦ Heās not meant to just spam bullets, youāre supposed to aim with him. I donāt know whether to go for all headshots, all bodyshots, a mix somehowā¦
Headshots.
Weāre talking potential damage.
Because thatās the ONLY thing people will worry about with anything weāll propose anyway.
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Hey, Terr. Iām as salty as you, it seems.
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People only look at paper.
āWhat Iām getting from this graph is that you should just always sit 0 meters from your targetā¦ I donāt see the problem here, Bastion is super OPā
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Pretty much, yes.
People often arenāt the brightest.
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Well, itās kinda stupid and fairly meaningless, but thereās Soldierās stats for 50 metersā¦ Not much point in multiple tests because thereās no RNG factor in Soldierās gun when shot in burst fireā¦ Obviously the time to kill will be off because of the burst, but just tack on an extra 0.5 seconds or so and itāll be fineā¦
Soldier's stats (50 meters)
| Headshots | Tests | RTK | Std Dev | TTK | DPS | DPR | Miss | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yes | 1 | 10 | 0 | 1.11 | 180 | 20 | 0% | 0'0" |
| No | 1 | 20 | 0 | 2.22 | 90 | 10 | 0% | 0'0" |
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āZee Baztion iz OP! He killz thingz twize az fazt az zoldier doez!ā
P.S.: Kill me.
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Donāt use Bastionās to kill you or itāll take too long.
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Also we need a golden hand.
I want my hello to be shiny.
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golden welder and tank gun and thatās all we need.
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Fair enough.
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