Bastion is being forgotten

Honestly though, maybe it is time to make that rework/buff idea megathread to get something fresh in here.

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I’ve seen Syms win on attack 2CP in QP, so QP isn’t a good standard of balance.

I think his post was actually sarcastically making that point.

Did you not see the forced sarcasm I’m my post

No I noticed it, but the QP part is where it fell through imo.

You should’ve said pirate ship or in comp, then I would have been on par with you.

So if I (or someone else) did make another Mega Thread about potential buffs or reworks we have thought of.

What are the approved ideas? Or do we just put all the known one?

Already have a name “Last BASTION of Hope! A Bastion Megathread”

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Ideally the OP ideas is where I’m set at. I highly highly highly doubt we’ll see him get a barrier nor do I want him to have one so the rework where his sentry and tank get flipped would be the next route that I would be OK with going. That or something new added to him since his E is open (not a barrier).

I can post a link to the Bastion fanfic I posted on this forum.

en/overwatch/t/post-binary-comic-bastion-fanfic/49068

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Imo I think putting tank on E is the best option.

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There are many keys on the keyboard,

imagine all the forms bastion could have!

  • By pressing F bastion can now transform into a firetruck and cool down his flaming teammates.

Hmm, this is what this game needs! :white_check_mark:

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I would really like to test it out on ptr if its enough.

I dont want to get another scuffed bastion :wink:

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I agree with you! It would suck if he got the exact same treatment as sombra and as he did before.

Maybe small buffs over time like they did with mei isnt a bad idea either. That way if he gets op they know for sure what is op

Which hero is Bastion again? Is it that the bearded gnome or the French oo-la-la? (Sarcasm)

Personal thoughts on how to help Bastion:

#1 - Get rid of the current passive. Replace with a new passive that when enemies are eliminated Bastion can pick up scrap to gain 25 armor (max 400 HP/Armor). That way Bastion can reap their own rewards continuously instead of relying on a very situational and easily ignored passive.

#2 - Assign an ability that is similar to S76’s Tactical Visor. As a robot it makes sense Bastion has some kind of assisted targeting program. This ability cannot do critical shots (Like Tact Visor). This ability would work in Sentry Form as well, though by placing it on a resource greatly limits the duration.

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#1 would place him into a frontline where he doesnt belong atm, and giving him more hp would just make pocketing even more annoying.

#2 this is not really needed as we need to bring back skill to the hero instead of toning it down.

But thanks for joining in on topic :smiley:

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#1 I’d argue that its a risk/reward setup that he presently doesn’t have. If a bastion player picks up bonus armor and the #2 ability to back him up, he can fight on the frontline capably, which is really why he’s not used in any competitive game currently; other characters simply do it better. With the potential of added armor it forces Bastion to be more active and engaging in situations instead of being a stationary, passive threat.

#2 Also doesn’t limit or alter his skillcap at all. If anything having another resource or ability to manage improves the skill ceiling of the hero in general. Bastion is currently one of the most basic heroes overall to play, which is why Bastion is easily countered, and by virtue of this topic forgotten.

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Quality of life buff:

Bastion has a laser sight that paints the spot he’s shooting.

This lets his teammates know where Bastion is pouring his fire, and thus where they need to shoot if they want to help make things die.

It also gives Bastion more to do by calling team targets.

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If bastion had his old sentry and current trans time, then setting up for at least one kill would be enough for mobile playstyle, staying in one place for a short time just to deal dmg should be his good side on attack, but with current TTK he can not do that.

1# going out of cover just to grab some armor, hmm…
Lets not forget how you can stack not only armor but shields as well, now place this monster bastion with more than 600hp behind rein and watch the annoyed players from mostly lower ranks go at it on forums.

2# Im not sure if im getting it right, but giving bastion this kind of aimbot ability would make him even more deadly in lower ranks but he would still be not good enough above diamond or even plat.

No need for aimbot ability if your tracking is already good :white_check_mark:

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I think 1 could work with some tweaks. It encourages Bastion’s to move. So good idea!

And I’m not sure I understand the point of number 2. Could you elaborate a little more.

All in all though, thank you for sharing your ideas :slight_smile:

We need more ppl on this idea #1, but in my opinion he wouldnt last long enough to even collect his first armor.

  • Maybe having an armor gain on E or at least the fortify would’ve been better.

Skill here would be pulling it off in a right moment to protect yourself from danger of burst dmg.

Any skillful things added to bastion are welcome :white_check_mark:

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