Another Mercy topic, but each time

Changed nonetheless hun. :blush:

Want to tell me something I don’t know?

Resurrect is 1/3 of Mercy and it got changed therefore the person who I was replying to’s claim that she practically hasn’t changed at all is wrong. :blush: Do I need to explain it again? Don’t worry, I won’t judge. :slight_smile:

And you’re agreeing with me so said discussion is pointless? Hmhmh. Okay. :unamused::man_facepalming:

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Babe, I was trying to establish that we were talking about base kit changes from pre to post rework. Not just the recent ones! :yum:

I dont really agree with the -10hps nerf! But I’ve been talking about pre to post rework. Silly :rofl:

Plz love. Goes both ways. We just expressing opinions here. Free to agree to disagree. No need to be all uppity and hostile. I could say the same to you but I refrain because I appreciate positivity.

Plz dont say things that encourage toxicity :blush: We need to listen to each other. :+1:

:smiley:

Didn’t see many posts going over the newly found contrast between Valk and her normal healing output. I’d say my topic was pretty original.

genuine curiosity. what makes you think that way?

who’s to say we dont want a fun and engaging rework idea? you? probably not a mercy player?

I mean, I pull the pellet gun out once in a while. Doesn’t hurt to get that last bit of damage out.

Lowest overall potential? I mean, if you look at statistics, but it’s been proven that roughly 60% of statistics are just made up. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Again, I’ve had very little trouble keeping up or out healing other healers as Mercy. I guess it’s just me, though.

If I’m playing Mercy by myself, then I just have to rely on my team being a little more optimal. I understand that’s not a luxury you’re always given but you’re not going to win every game, and I usually avoid solo healing as Mercy if I’m left to solo heal. I’ll take up someone else. That’s just how it is: If it don’t work, switch.

Sure bastion first but mercy’s next after xd

ye but its an ultimate so its not as jarring.

No concrete evidence for or against it but that doesn’t somehow mean we shouldn’t try to do so since well 2.0 clearly isn’t working out and they cant seem to properly balance her in this state.

If you back up your argument with facts and statistic’s sure.

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you shouldnt have any trouble at all.

mercy’s only job is to heal, she cant do much of anything else.

wheras the other supports can solo kill out of position chumps.

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Tbh from an outside perspective it does come across if you aren’t in favor of Mass Rez you’re in for a ride around here! :rofl:

And I should care because? I’m trying to establish that we’re talking about base kit changes since her rework. :blush:

You’re passive aggression is going to be taken into consideration by us members of the Opposite of Boring Movement. :blush:

That’s an assumption love. :blush: There was no toxic intent in my words. :blush:


Sincerely,

The Opposite of Boring Movement

We aim to make things fun and happy. :smiley:

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So Mercy should be the only healer then? I don’t get what you’re trying to put down. Also, I don’t really look at charts or numbers. I’m too focused just trying to play the game.

I guess it’s just my low rank and lack of skill, but I’ve never seen a Moira/Ana/Mercy ever outheal 3+ people laying into anyone.

The thing about debates is that if your argument is weak expect it to be ripped to shreds.

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I’ve killed people as Mercy and kept my team alive at the same time.

Yeah, but so can every other hero?

I’m not about arguing who deserves what position in the Q :laughing: Is how it is! Hopefully all heroes get to good and healthy positions within the game environment!! :blush:

Iunno :sweat_smile: That’s a subjective opinion imho! Some people could easily find it jarring :rofl: I cant assume how other people would feel!

Well trying can result in a 6 month moth meta :laughing:

That effects everyone! I doubt devs wanna throw dice en :blush:

Statistics are falliable and people disagree on what qualifies as a fact.

Even if I did what you ask, I doubt its change anything. :yum:

from an inside perspective, i feel it’d look that way for 2 reasons.

  • we know aoe res works (it was fine for a year and a half before i-fram buff)
  • aoe res is the only thing we know works.

to go off that last point, everything that isnt mass res is inherently a gamble.
we dont know what will happen if we add pacify into the game, or if we add angelic light etc.

the point is proven by valkyrie. devs took a gamble, reworked mercy within a month of her finally being out of trash tier and made her a broken moth, despite mercy players saying that

  • it isnt mercy anymore
  • it’s horrible unbalanced

that rework utterly besmirched mercy.

no one wants another “valkyrie” to happen again, so we’re cautious about new ideas…

however, anything that mentions aoe res normally gets dragged on with a petty arguement - seeming from the outside as thought it has more replies/traction.

when in reality the comments on the new suggestions are balanced improvements, or support for the idea. there’s just nothing to argue so the threads die out.

it’s a crappy cycle, but it’s what we have.


sorry for the long winded response :slight_smile:

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so have i bub.

im trying to say, supports really should be focused on supporting, not dealing damaing, but it’s integral to being a good ana/moira.

mercy doesnt have anywhere near the healing or (consistent) damage potential of the other main supports, that’s factual.

i say consistent b/c landing all heaadshots gives mercy’s gun 200 dps…

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Pardon, muffin? Pre work → Post rework her base kit hasn’t changed for the worst. It wasn’t until this recent -10hps nerf that her base kit was nerfed. Outside of that, base kit has only improved throughout the rework. The only big change has been the ult.

If we’re both talking about base kit changes, why are we disagreeing? :rofl:

Please don’t project or assume :worried: You’re encouraging toxicity. I haven’t been passive aggressive at all! I have remained extremely positive!

I don’t know about that, you seem to be very condescending towards me! There are things you are saying that can be seen as instigating, which is against the CoC btw! Please don’t make me flag your posts :disappointed_relieved:

Her base kit was changed after her rework. Therefore it was a change since her rework. :smiley:

You called me silly multiple times. Let’s pull up the definitions:

  • having or showing a lack of common sense or judgement; absurd and foolish.

  • (especially of a woman, child, or animal) helpless; defenceless.

  • a foolish person (often used as a form of address).

All of the above can be considered harassment and trolling so I’d recommend that you stop calling me silly. :blush:

I disagree. Please don’t assume things. :blush:

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depends how you look at it.

things that have happened to her base kit, excluding number changes;

  • Extended GA (an accident, it wa a bug that they “implemented”)
  • Super jump, variation of extended GA
  • e res.

The GA accidents? love em, really great and open up more skillfull avenues for mercy play.

e res? feels like trash and doesnt fit the flow of her kit.

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I’m not going to bother getting involved in whatever conversations are going on at the moment, skip every post to this point, and just respond to the OP.

There are a number of factors as to why people are upset with Mercy’s current condition. For one, Valkyrie isn’t nearly as flashy, noticeably impactful, or “fun” as Huge Res was. And I won’t contest that the feeling might be gone now. For two, after her rework Mercy has had nothing but a stream of nerfs, which is understandably disheartening.

However, what Mercy mains need to understand is Huge Res was never “fun” to be on the receiving end of, unlike, say, Sound Barrier or Transcendence. That “fun to play against” ideology is why Nano-boost was nerfed partway through the old Triple Tank meta, why characters like Reaper or Roadhog stay in a semi-useable state, and why Bastion stays in the dumpster. Furthermore, Mercy was only seldom used in high tiers of play. Complain all you want about Res in Plat and under, I don’t blame you since good teammates who know to focus Mercy and properly manage ults are few and far between. Mercy was hardly picked in higher ranks because of how easy a coordinated team could counter Huge Res; it was so predictable it was barely worth using.

We know it worked then. We don’t know how it’d work now! And it wasn’t exactly the best working thing back then either! Lot of controversy!

That seems like we’re selling ourselves short! :yum: I’m sure we can come up with something better than aoe res! :grin: We’re creative!

Anything that isn’t current Mercy is a gamble! :blush: We never truly know how a balance change will play out!

Was rez was decided to be moved away from! I try to honor that decision with my consideration of Mercy’s future! I know that isn’t all that popular around here :sweat_smile:

Yes a lot of the Mercy discussion is fueled on grudges and resent and us vs them and all kinds of negative stuff it’d seem :sweat_smile: That’s how it goes though, some people are clinging hard to the past, some are trying to move forward, there’s always turbulence when that occurs. Look at the current social structure irl :rofl: