Another Mercy topic, but each time

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  1. Moira doesn’t have any utility, just damage
  2. Moira has difficulty bouncing between heal targets, but usually has to be close range to heal, and if she uses her one escape tool to do it, she’ll probably die.
  3. Moira is pretty weak right now at higher ranks too.
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Uh… What? You’re legitimately confusing me at this point. This isn’t the Quest I know.
I’m not even pushing for Mass Rez at all. I want a Mercy that is healthy for this game, and whose kit isn’t balanced around Rez. I just want her to be impactful, and maybe even more skillful. I’d love to see a rework where you can see a lot of improvement between more experienced and less experienced Mercy players.

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People change. Just like Jeff’s plans. :blush::blush::blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:

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Well, if you aren’t too picky, why not figure the most minimal changes to the current design that would get the desired effect?

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Last I checked, Moira had he highest healing averages in all tiers, as well as the highest average of combined healing and damage.

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I didnt say it was! :+1: I’m all for a rework that buffs Mercy up and gives her some more skill expression!! :muscle::triumph:

A rework is a lot more than just putting mass rez back! It can be so much more! Why limit ourselves to mass rez?? :laughing:

We want every hero to be like that! :laughing: I doubt every Bastion main feels their hero is balanced, engaging, and fair :rofl:

It all takes time! Gotta consider everyone

Thatd be amazing. I’d love it! :blush:

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Maybe you just got bored of playing her in general? I’ve had similar experiences with heroes where I’ll play them for a long time, get bored then move onto the next. I mean fundamentally Mercy is the same hero she’s always been apart from the 5% of the time you use your ult.

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Suggest anything that removes chain beams and I’ll be fine. :slight_smile:

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No, it’s the same as it is with Rein and other tanks. It’s just consistently unpleasant to play Mercy right now, so I just don’t.

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We’ll have to see.

Before the 60HPS nerf, Mercy outhealed Moira at every skill tier besides GM.

Currently she’s just a bit below Moira. And this new patch probably will bump her average above Moira.

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2/3 of her kit got reworked though? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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But the issue is that her Kit is so weird. I wouldn’t mind a full revert/buff to 60HPS, since I don’t believe that it was ever an issue to begin with. Her ultimate would still be weak, but solo healing as her would be an option again, and damage boosting/rezzing would be less punishing.
I could survive with that, but 50HPS just feels so unbelievably slow. Tank mains hate even having her as a solo healer.

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Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State Here’s a rework idea

ye ik, prepare for a long read.

30+ minutes or longer if your a slow reader.

because it was fun and the only thing we had to get right was the balance of mercy which could be done by adding an e that actually flows with her kit.

which titanium’s post aims to do.

plus we cant remove rez.

rez=mercy at this point.

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That’s great to hear! I think itd be good for us as a community to consider making heroes, and Mercy in particular, more fun with respect to the current state of the game!

I think a lot of us could benefit discussing Mercy outside of Mass Rez and how it was before.

It’s hard tho! Seems like Mass Rez is constantly imposed on the vast majority of Mercy discussions!! :blush:

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lots of area denial ults have been added since then which would counter mass rez pretty well on top of the d.va bomd rewipes and junkrat tires of old which would give counterplay on top of the added stuns,boops, and etc.

:man_shrugging:

plus if you give los to rez no more rezzing through walls and if you add a short cast time like lucio you can interrupt it and if we need to we can make it require more ult charge.

you know proper balancing.

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Does this count?

🕊️ Valkyrie: Focus Beam Toggle

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That still doesn’t take Moira’s combined healing/damage averages into consideration. She would still have the highest overall potential.

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Anything that doesn’t involve toggling with Q? I prefer to just click it once. :slight_smile:

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And Mercy would potentially have 60 Resurrections in a 15 minute game, instead of an average of 6.

But why would anybody care about theoretical potential, as compared to real world performance?

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I can understand why a lot of people liked Mass Rez. It involved a lot of mind games, which was an entirely different kind of skill. I wasn’t so great at it, but was working on it right up until they changed her. But at this point, I don’t care if it comes back or not.

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