No, you will get 2 DPS, 2 maybe flex players who happen to be playing support and then 2 DPS mains frustrated with the long queues “tanking” with Road and Zarya on almost all your matches. Enjoy!
(yeah we can all use the worst case scenario as an example).
That has nothing to do with a 2 2 2. Playing 2 teams when both are 5 DPS and 1 healer is equally competitive. Not the most optimal and easy way to win but hey, its a mirror comp.
If you main X and complain that you get others main X in your team and deflect the blame on the MMR system you are being selfish and illogical, yes.
I’ve repeatedly explained to you how 2-2-2 will give the game’s designers more power and freedom to balance the game. How will 2-2-2 not lead to better balance?
I’ve explained in detail how it might theoretically bring you better balance, but it won’t bring you more creativity in hero design or group composition.
You’ve literally asked that hybrid and specialist heroes are redesigned especially to accommodate them.
You say that like no DPS player will ever switch. What will actually happen is players who regularly flex (like you and me) will enter the role queue with the same attitude, and we’ll flex between different heroes, not different roles.
As opposed to what? Exact same thing, except those 2 players will switch mid game to dps and argue loudly over comms that the other dps should go tanks instead?
Instead of role queue Devs should improve LFG and make it the only way to play Competitive.
Actually, LFG is already pretty good. The only downside of LFG is that it requires some more time. But it is so only because there are not enough people who use LFG. And people don’t use LFG because they immediately leave when they cannot find a group that fits their needs and they are too lazy to create their own group - people want everything to be ready for them, they want best result with zero effort put.
All problems can be solved with LFG. Yo can have ideal groups in LFG. But people’s laziness prevents it.
Don’t be lazy. Don’t be stupid. Don’t wait for others to solve everything for you.
Go LFG and CREATE A GROUP.
Please, explain how giving the designers more power to balance characters in extreme ways leads to less creativity?
I didn’t understand your second point, could you reword that? My thing was pretty much every hero is a hybrid of some kind, and switching would still happen to leverage their weaknesses and strengths.
I think you’re confused over homogeneity - yes, the team constructions would be less varied, but the designers would have more flexibility to make the individual heroes more unique and powerful.
As opposed to nothing, thats exactly the point.
Nothing will change through a system change, you are just shifting the problem, because its a player’s behaviour issue, not a system issue.
For the hundred gazillion time, the only true change (and a bad one) is : Implementing the FORCED role queue will prevent flex players from exercising their liberty to flex and help/fill functions/roles needed when others can’t flex in that needed spot or are better doing other things instead.
Yes, your choices are more limited. Suck it up, its better for the game.
More unique and extreme balancing to characters means more interesting interactions between characters and counterplay. Even now, if your 2 tanks are struggling, play Mei instead of hanzo. If your DPS arent killing, go Zen instead of mercy.
No, I think it’s just more like people don’t want to go through the hassle. We’ve proven we want “the path of least resistance” as Jeff himself put it. If you want an “optional Role Queue for those who want it to opt into”, we already have it, but no one uses it because it’s a pain to set up a group exactly as you want it.
Besides, if the main problem is long queue times, splitting up the player base even more is just going to kill it, regardless of how good it actually is.
