I personally wasn’t aware that Bastion has the lowest pickrate everywhere, but if that is indeed the case, he definitely needs another do-over.
Personally, I like the idea of a temporary Sentry Mode; the limited duration means it can be permitted a greater power budget. But that’s just my opinion.
And who knows, maybe Blizzard will have some kind of lore event where Torbjorn overhauls Bastion into a totally new bot, resulting in a complete gameplay change.
Bastion is so bad she’s essentially a meme
Bastion is my second favorite DPS behind Sym, I have his gold gun even. But I never get to use him. I literally excite at Paris because it’s a chance to play him even if it’s in bunker, but everywhere else it just invites toxicity.
#JusticeForBastion
I don’t necessarily trust all of BTC’s potential “rework” ideas. Back when mercy was OP with valk he thought they should bring back reaper’s soul orbs so he could “eat rezzable souls”
Reworks are the worst for this game
BTC, You mean the one who say Kolorblind opinion on Bastion is useless ?
Ye, sorry but nope.
Btw (after watching the vid, some point his make are not that bad but they’re not that good either in my opinion).
Who knows you just might get the sym 3.0 rework where he plays nothing like his old self. Can’t trust the devs to keep the old players in mind
but hope to have new heroes that match well with the current one… no, right?
See reinhardt before brigitte -> after brigitte.
Bastion just needs his Sentry mode reverted. No Ironclad, bring back the old gun with only 200 bullets but a tight bullet spread and headshots.
The bunker meta is double sniper or torb because Bastion doesn’t have range. He needs more effective range and the ability to reliably and quickly kill squishies, not just tanks.
Without Ironclad he will be easier to deal with, but with the old Sentry gun he will be more effective in all scenarios when used well. It’s not a hard concept. They simply changed too much with Bastion’s rework and need to step back and try again.
Old Sentry + Old Tank + New Recon & Repair would be the best Bastion we’ve ever seen. I’ve been asking for it since the rework went live.
He would be such an interesting character to rework, considering he doesn’t have an E or a lot of depth I would love to see Tank Mode become a baseline ability so that he could choose between a more stationary hitscan or mobile projectile play style.
Even small buffs like letting him repair himself while reloading could help.
I saw the video
My opinion was this
Ill be ok with option 1 as long as the sentry mode time is a bit bigger like 8s-10s
But option 2 is the biggest N O P E
But again, im against reworks in general, so yeah, he yet has an empty ability slot so reworks dont seem necesary for me
I honestly don’t think rework are health for OW, I mean look at Mercy and Sym, there are still a large amount of players complain about their rework.
I said this a while back and stick to my opinion:
Bastion has 3 modes (2 and his ult) which all perform dps where one of them is less functional comparatively .
Recon mode gives him low mobility but terrible dps with medium range that cases spread and recoil. It is mostly used to reposition for turret mode. The ult provides mobility and high burst damage.
They need to make the modes distinctive.
Recon has a huge hit box, practically tank sized. It is a worse version of Soldier 76 with a larger hit box and no burst damage.
Make Redon his “mini-tank” mode where he is a tank-dps hybrid.
Increase the dps of his primary, with reduced range by increasing the spread. Have his E act as a heal that can be used while in combat, and when at full HP, creates a shield in front of him for a maximum of 300 hp. He can’t reactivate the heal if his shield is up and is being damaged. This shield only works in Recon mode.
His ult has less effective HP than his original version prior to the change to Iron Clad. Increase Iron Clad during his ult to 25% give him 25 more armor.
I will put this here…
With respect to BTC, if they haven’t noticed Bastion’s poor pick rate despite that being the case throughout the entire game, then maybe they should kindly understand the character more before making videos such as this…
Jack
Bastion, IMO, is pretty much the only hero that would greatly benefit from his ult becoming a normal ability (with adjustments), and getting a fresh new ult.
Eg, Config Tank bullets not having a manual recharge (works like Doomfist ammo), getting a damage nerf to be a normal explosive (120 damage, like Pharah), and giving him a critspot somewhere in the tank.
Maybe his ult is some kind of “overclock” where his sentry gets the beta shield, his tank gets reverted to current values (and no critbox), and his recon gets ironclad, infinite ammo and perfect accuracy.
Just throwing ideas. Didn’t watched the video.
He’s the last bastion of hope for all the niche picks before him. The devs already smashed torb and sym and old hanzo if ya wanna count him also
We are just removing all the obscure picks from existence
So I watched the vid. I did like they idea of opening up Bastion’s kit for buffs.
But then I realized that was all he was doing. He never actually got to the part where he made Bastion better… all he did was nerf the heck out of Sentry Mode to “allow for buffs”. Its like he gave up on the rework halfway through. Even the tank mode option felt a unfinished.
“I like all characters” well it sure looks like he doesn’t like Bastion. Like at all.
Anyone else felt that way?
Why is anyone even watching that guy?
Bastion needs to be able to move in sentry mode (even if very slow), not just as an ability. He shouldn’t be countered just by corner peeking.
That aside, with bunker comp right now, bastion is anything but useless atm.
Maybe a middle ground, tighter spread but no HS.
His spread used to be 1.2 degrees but within 9 bullets (135 damage) had bloomed to 2 degrees. Now his spread shrinks to 2 degrees but it just takes soooo long. 2 whole seconds. That’s an eternity in overwatch when Hanzo can dump 405 damage within 1.2 of a second.
Recon’s mode damage is… weird.
I mean in terms of archetypal FPS weapons it’s really standard, but conceptually of how it would fit in the game it’s hard to understand.
It’s at such a low rate yet the capacity means it can just chug on and on and on.
4.4 seconds of continual firing, I can’t see why. This results in higher sustained DPS than other heroes (i.e. McCree has to reload) but if you’ve got that much time to shoot… why don’t you go into sentry mode? It’s just so redundant for recon to be balanced for sustained damage along with sentry mode.
The only damage that’s relevant in recon mode is the damage you can deal within about 2 seconds. As you say, total lack of burst damage. Any longer than that and you’re dead as you have a tank sized hitbox with half as much health as a tank should have.
If you could survive much more than 2 seconds… why not hop into sentry mode?
It doesn’t matter that you’re taking the hit of a 1.0sec transformation time, you then can make up for the damage in sentry mode.
I would just buff recon mode to give it a purpose beyond moving from set up point to set up point b.