You only had to do two things

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You only had to do two things:
1-a reporting system that works, ban trolls, afk and crazy people.

a well-functioning matchmaker.

but what did you do?

you banned the good players.
many of us play with passion, investing time and money in this game, if someone ruins it on purpose it is logical that they insult him, they would have activated the adult language filter by default.
That’s how I lost my 5-year account in one of the last witch hunts, (sometimes it was silenced / suspended in mace I remember seeing 1 of 10 players silenced)
And it didn’t take 20 reports once I got suspended for a single sentence.

By the way, trolls don’t buy jewels, I see it because of their skin.

with a good player base improving matchmaking would have been a piece of cake,
but with the amount of trolls that there are now it is impossible.

they trolling in ranked without consequences: healer who dies on purpose, a jaina who died 13 times in 18 minutes (someone explain to me how you can die 13 times in 18 minutes) it becomes impossible to advance and the smurf accounts start to appear .

They live on fame borrowed from the great minds who created Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3, but they’re out of it.
only you guys are responsible for ruining my favorite game.

As I write I am uninstalling a game that I have enjoyed for 7 years, and today it just makes me uncomfortable.

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The customer support will generally only quote one or two recent sentences. People have still reported you several times earlier, before you typed those sentences in previous games.

Not saying false silences don’t happen (people in this game are very happy to report anyone they dislike for any reason, and that can hit hard if you play 10+ matches a day), but you are screwed if they find real abusive chat in your chat log & it’s your third time getting suspended or silenced.

The account is lost for good.

if someone ruins it on purpose it is logical that they insult him, they would have activated the adult language filter by default.

But why do you have to type out those insults so it generates a log? Curse the bad player in your mind, or out loud, or even in the voice chat (chances are nobody is in the team voice channel anyway). It’s pointless to call someone names during a match. The person wont learn or become better, all you do is risk your account.

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Good players dont get banned

I agree it’s frustrating but you can’t control other people. You can control you.

You saying X. Y, Z combined with the reporting system, you will get banned.

Even saying you like donuts can get you banned.

It’s possible, if they are truly playing but they’re just bad it happens.

Had a leoric die 30+ times.

Sorry to hear, though you might reinstall, here’s some advice, if you do come back, the game will either be the same or worse.

Just do what I do now, I just play Aram. QM and SL is not even in my rotation anymore

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More like impulsive, which is not thought out, thus not logical.
Logical would’ve been to report them, maybe write a web ticket instead of letting it go, be incivilised, immature and getting yourself banned instead of them.

Remember:
Proving toxic chat is ezpz, unlike differentiating genuine noobness from inting.

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if you ‘enjoyed the game for 7 years’, then it had sufficient reporting and matching systems in place.
However, of that time, you have played an account of 5 years, which would indicate that either you are not consistent with your own time frame, or you have had more than one account. If you have had more than 1 account, then you have indicated that the game not only allows people to have more than one account – a foible of free-to-play games – but you have also presented a solution to the issue you have at hand.

The concern you have here is that the account was banned, which would mean that it has been sanctioned several times. In the course of your complaint, you do not show humble or repentant behavior, but instead try to rationalize the conduct with non-sequiturs that you delude yourself into concluding as ‘logical’ outcomes – claiming demonstrable fallacy as ‘logical’ doesn’t help your cause.

The forums aren’t going to be sympathetic to players that confess that they are their own problem, try to fault anything else anyway, and then look for some roundabout explanation that claims that something else ‘ruined the game for them’. Accounts aren’t banned over 1 sentence so in the course of your complaint you have suggested:

  1. a faulty processing of what is ‘logical’ and what is not
  2. that you are not accountable for your own actions
  3. adolescent reactions to reward vs punishment. (i’ll leave this as in-claim only, and not detail the identifying marks as this is too long as is)

Given the sort of outburst you have and disconnect on the rational presented here, it could suggest you could be one of the ‘crazy’ people you demand that the system ban. While a particular quote has been incorrectly attributed to Albert Einstein, Mark Twain, and Ben Franklin (amongst others), one of the better attributions is from anonymous recovery organizations as is phrased in particular as “insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results”. (not repeating just anything, but the repetition of mistakes).

What you have presented is a declaration of enjoying something – despite it’s evident flaws – and then not enjoying something in the aftermath of predictable outcomes. While aspects of the game have changed over the span of years, the crux of the turn wouldn’t be from the devs you are blaming, but an inability to discern the difference from what you’re doing (logically permissive) and what other people do.

If people looked into the conduct you’re trying to condone on your main action, they would likely find the sanction to hold and see this at yet another example of the system working as intended for filtering out “trolls, afk and crazy people” esp the ones that perceive themselves as “Good” and then try to rationalize that rule-breaking conduct is both logically sound, but also not their fault.

Unfortunately, this is cliché conduct that was shot down back when the devs where openly posting responses to uphold bans on the game, so even if you are unhappy about the particulars of the game of then vs now, it seems that that aspect of the dev-design (despite the insistence of banking off of previous success) doesn’t align with your scrutiny.

More so considering the concern you have here is regarding the reporting and matching system by drawing complaints with functions that are consistent with competitor games; back when said games have forums of their own, they had similar outbursts that met with a similar lack of sympathy, with a similar turn-around as one of the issues of free-to-play games is a lack of lingering ‘punishment’ to curb unwanted behaviors.

Similarly, the initial premise you provide “only had to do two things” is grossly wrong – character implementation, hero balance, map design, bug testing, – one could suggest that the reputation of blizzard had been they could ‘do no wrong’, so they only need to do ‘two things’ to have a “successful game” you fault that conclusion and blame them for your disconnected claim, despite that not actually being the case at hand.

Even if this isn’t verbatim “crazy” (concurrent mental health concerns contrasted to batman asylums) it is demonstrable delusion where you are lying to yourself and rationalize double-standards by just finding something else to blame. That sort of stuff is going to align up with sanctionable behavior in other games, and maybe it’ll take another “7 years” to invest in, love-and-then-hate, another game and community, but that is all preventable behaviors that ‘logically’ shouldn’t be repeated the next time around.

Esp if you end up as one of those others that reinstalls the game, rationalizes they can afk/troll/grief, and then uninstall again once that smurf gets banned too. Cuz btw, what you’re doing so far is the sort of thing other people do that causes you to rile off regarding “witch hunts”

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They banned the toxic A-holes, period full stop, just b cause you use “passion” as your scape goat for being a Toxic A-hole does not change the fact

There can be unwarrented punishments but the sheer volume of chances this system gives makes it neigh impossible for anyone to be perma banned unjustifiably

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hots doesn’t need a deep psychological analysis, he needs to solve his basic problems, (hence the title of the publication) that everyone has complained about for years.
then you can deal with
more heroes and more maps, first learn to walk and then to fly.
perhaps you work for bliz. you give a complex and ambiguous explanation to justify basic flaws, that lack of focus limits your ability to identify and solve problems.
I have a university degree and a managerial position, I recognize that an incompetent employee is arrogant and lacks common sense.
(how to create a weather system for a moba)
this is reality, and reality cannot be denied.
denying reality is being foolish and the consequences are in sight.

i have played bliz games since childhood, since diablo 2

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Shut up.

  • Your degree means less than nothing here
  • Managers are stereotypically the least competent for a reason
  • Your insights are neither novel nor constructive
  • You come off as just another wanker passing off toxic behavior as “passion”
  • You are uninstalling anyway, and therefore have no further stake in the game
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i’m starting to think they actually work for bliz.
Those answers are not logical.
I was in the teachers league once.
Now my old friends don’t play anymore.
being competitive is not bad
The competitive spirit has led me to achieve many achievements.

to attempt against this is to fall into disgrace.

This was said by a bliz developer. who now works for riot.

“Going AFK, refusing to participate, and intentionally dying are all behaviors that ruin everyone else’s experience in a match and undermine the spirit of competition that is essential to Heroes of the Storm.”

publication link:

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Being competitive is not bad. The behaviors in the quote are of course quite detrimental. No one would disagree with that.

People do not get banned at the drop of a hat. You earned it. It is vanity to suggest otherwise – but you are clearly a vain person.

Seriously, just stop talking.

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i didn’t post a “Deep pyscchologiccal analysis” i pointed out apparent contradiction and double standards. Typically when people have something else to blame, they neglect personal awareness.

having a functional game trumps having a reporting system. You have mixed priorities and neglect essentials for games in favor of trying to fault something else.

that’s a poor assumption, especially given what their employment perspectives have been like; they’ve had to buy other companies outright to help offset their staffing issues.

My pointing out the errors in your justification doesn’t excuse flaws, which is the point of my pointing them out. However, there are pragmatic concerns on why these issues are continued in other games, but that seems to be something you’re not applying to your observation on reasoning.

I’d say I have a grasp for problem solving; that’s part of why my posting history here includes examples of my not complaining about issues, but trying to address them by either posting suggestions, or replying to players regarding concerns they have for “problems” they are having. I don’t think you’re well-read enough to notice the difference and instead or faulting me for your ‘false dilemma’ (assuming things are only two sides)

but apparently not when it is you; I posted that concern regarding what you were doing before you announced your irrelevant degree or job. Feel free to badly assume either of my end (such as assuming I work for blizz)

Similarly, ‘common sense’ doesn’t really exist. There’s common circumstances, and common assumptions, but people tend to assume that summations of their own experiences and thoughts must therefore be experienced by anyone else, and those that deviate from that must therefore have something wrong with them. Provided someone can flag someone else with negative labels first, then they forgo the realization that they are exemplifying the conduct they blame of others generally on the basis that they didn’t agree with what the person is complaining about.

From my experience in customer services and leadership, I’d like to assume you would have had to deal with customers that create their own problems and look for a manager to whom they can complain, and evidently not noticed how your conduct matches theirs, but I can’t actually assume you’ve had such experience, and then neglect it for your tizzy here. Ergo, “Common sense” doesn’t really exist as “common” or “sense”.

Yes, that it why I was posting particulars on the apparently contradiction in the reality as it is, and what you’re trying to suggest. However, what is ‘real’ is largely subjective and people do have different perspective on the perception of color, sound, meaning, and so on. There is some overlap in that, but I find things are getting more divergent due to longstanding issues of double-standards by those that would rather blame anyone else than look to improve their own perspective.

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only forum knights left to respond to you. it is as you said they banned all the good players

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Sorry that they didn’t swear at you out of “passion”… :smirk:

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I agree with some of your posts, but imo good players don’t really get banned imo. Part of being a good player is the skill to stay calm under pressure, under stressful moments to perform the best with the cards that are dealt.

If you are dealt with trolls on your team (happens often I know), a good player isn’t going to flame, but rather stay out of the chit chat, ping, and do the best he/she can absolutely can during that match.

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Yea, good players carry, not throw through flaming.

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the forums pretty much only break down into chronic complainers and ‘forum knights’ that don’t go around complaining about every little thing in the game that upsets them.

However, all the actual good players don’t bother with the forums. People that stream have their community, organized play uses other communities, and the people that rant around here acting like “good” players got ‘banned’ have little clue on what’s actually going on with the game, but they still cycle around to complain anyway since they don’t actually seem to know how to apply themselves to be skill they claim to be.

Lotta players stick to just playing the game.

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reading these comments confirms that it was the right decision to uninstall the game.
only ignorant people remain.
so I am going to request the deletion of personal data.
by the way my main account was only silenced.
I would like to know what type of player you are, you sound like a bronze.

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Dunno what phrases hid anything skill-related, but if you truly want to know, I reached Masters in multiple Seasons solo.
What about you?

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These opinions are not intended exclusively for “forum gentlemen”.
They are intended for anyone who wants to read them.

who knows, maybe someone from bliz can read it.
someone with the authority to implement these small changes, which would bring great benefits.
That is why they are synthesized in this way.

although I doubt that at this point the course of events can be changed.

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"1-a reporting system that works, ban trolls, afk and crazy people.

a well-functioning matchmaker.

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more heroes and more maps."

The first two are not trivial endeavors, and would require a not-insignificant infusion of funding and personnel.

Moreover, your suggestions on these two points are extremely vague as presented – I’m blown away at your use of the word “synthesized” here – with no insights whatsoever into how the revised systems could/should work.

You think? After Blizzard has formally announced perpetual maintenance mode with no new content? (This also slams the door on the idea of more heroes and maps.)

Seriously, just stop talking.