Truly, why does Illidan get such fantastic healing? Thirsting blade allows him to self heal for more health than both healers in a game sometimes. Add and Aba hat and he is god mode. Why?
And why is thirsting blade allowed to go from 30% to 50% with a talent? Then add 20% basic attack damage at level 20 and he is at 60% healing from AA. Why? It just seems way too huge.
Someone complaining about Illi? What is next, Murky’s self-healing is OP?
Because without it he will feel like a butcher with murky’s HP.
Illidan is designed in such way that he has to stick to enemies, for that he needs self sustain.
And illi+aba is still 2 heroes dealing damage. Yes, abathur might be considered as only 0.5 for this, but for this combo, aba has to dedicate towards the illidan.
Illidan has a few major weaknesses for this:
And in some cases some heroes are excelent for a 2v1. And in some cases even 1v2 (KTZ can do major damage with it)! Each hero is diffirent, and considering the amount of times illidan is useless, having such niche is only good.
I don’t find it that great on its own.
It does shine when you factor in other talents.
While i do agree that illidan is a toxic hero when not countered having 0 of his counter is rare even in QMfiesta and even then you need to not suck playing a melee hero.
The real question would be “why do his two other level 7 talent seem so weak?”
Because blind and then Illidan over. His spell damage is piddles and requires-- yes, requires-- the supplement of his cooldown reduction to be even remotely threatening.
Once you blind (or stun) Illidan, it’s all ogre for him. He just flails and prays Evasion is up or else he folds like a house of cards.
well first off out of most of the melee in this game illidan has terrible HP so he is pretty easy to pick off once his evasion is done with.
the heals are small nothing burst assassin can’t handle with ease the butcher heals for 1000 healing later game on auto attacks, leroic heals for alot on AA as well.
i tested this out and the healing isn’t THAT GREAT! you can easily burst down illidan once evasion is over with. thats all illidan is most of the time is keeping up his evasion and trying to dodge incoming spells in order to live while slowly going back up in hp.
Well he doesn’t have that much hp for a melee assassin (1720 vs 2000 for Rehgar). Sitting at 48.42% winrate in last 3 patch which doesn’t look OP.
A lot of heroes are god mode with Aba. Artanis and Malganis for example.
Some talents do that, like Tass at 4. What is so surprising?
Illidan can look OP if your team don’t have any CC and if he’s with Aba I guess. Just like a Ktz with zero pressure on him.
Someone clearly wasn’t prepared
Imagine if valla walked around in your backline how would you respond? Illadin can wipe out a team easily if your tank leaves you alone but if he gets stunned you can take him out very quickly.
First time I read this thread, I thought it was from a 0 post account. This is some low-quality bait, mate.
Because he’s a sustain damage melee assassin.
That’s literally all you need to know.
Honestly i think they should change his healing cuz i find it ridiculous that his meta is never to stop attacking, anything, walls. It’s ridiculous
I WILL BRING DOWN THESE WALS OF OPPRESSION!
It’s just silly, just like Tyrande.
But then you’d have to change valla kharazim greymane jimmy everyone having access to momentum talents to make it fair.
if you think illidan is a good hero then youre just bad
illidan is a hypercarry. he has great selfsustain as long as he can aa and that s it. just some blinds/ stuns and good focus and he s no problem.
it s a bit of a different story if he got proper support like aba+tassadar but it s the same for tracer, genji, zera and all the other heroes out there.
one tip. for illidan to deal lots of dmg he usually has to go battered assault at lvl 1 and needs to hit 2 heroes with his w for a great aa boost, if he cant he s much less oppressive.
Actually the rank 1 player in the world mains illidan.
Maybe because it is like how he is designed. Its like saying why a mage should have access to spell power increase talents.
You find ?
Personally i dont pick it everytime. I gauge it based on the enemy comp mostly.
for me its devided about 50/30/20 (thirst /onslaught/reflexive)
Theres time where thirsting blade i feel wont be as efficient as other talents.
Specially if i need to dive enemy , id lean for on reflexive block or even hunters onslaught . then id base it on if the enemy team is spell heavy or AA heavy.
Don’t use the word meta again until you figure out what it means, please.
Modus operandi sure, but there is nothing meta about doing what the character is designed to do.
Most efficient tactic available is in this case hitting all the time to get hp and cdr back. What’s wrong?