As the question says. Why do people continuously troll I understand an occasional troll (Like more of a joke or Fan playing bad heroes etc). Getting grumpy and/or having a bad day happens and i understand but why do people purposely and continuous troll to troll?
Like what is the point. If your not enjoying the game or your enjoyment of this game is only from trolling why not go play something else?
My only guess is they are employees of Riot or something like that…
EDIT: I do not consider getting grumpy and/or having a bad day as trolling!
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Most of your awkward experiences for what you may interpret as trolling is a direct side effect of you refusing to engage in some form of communication yourself.
This is bound to happen when less than ideal roles for a certain activity need to cover for their team because someone isn’t doing their job right. This is common when playing tanks and healers because idiot damage dealers often prolong their stay doing something entirely unproductive when they could be contributing much more.
As for what are considered troll picks, sometimes you simply need to adapt the play style to what the first person in line picks, you don’t get to double down on predetermined meta and complain after.
Start communicating your intentions more frequently and other will be encouraged to copy the behaviour. This will also stop people from lashing out at random once a critical mistake has been made. You don’t need to be present at every objective from start if you can out-trade the enemy elsewhere with minimal player interaction, just let your team know on time.
Do you have one specific person in mind or is this like a general question?
You get matched with and against different players all the time so ofc you will meet trolls. That does’t mean one specific player is trolling in every single match.
Just because something looks bad to you it isn’t necessarily an act of trolling.
Trolling is art. Some people are just bad at the game.
Your making a huge assumption here. I list as Bruiser/Flex and fill all the time.
Trolling is mostly when someone refuses to join team fights and then deliberately dies before an objective etc.
I’m from a small region and we are lucky to have 100 people on at a time so we tend to know most. There have even been people who get banned then make another account so they can come back and troll some more.
This has nothing to do with trolling in my opinion.
It’s just bad play - not knowing what to do / not being aware of the situation. It’s pretty common.
Not every disagreement you have with someone is a case of trolling. Some of this is bound to happen when you have five anonymous people of different skill and knowledge.
These are just examples. When you have a master player on a smurf doing those things do you think it’s bad play or trolling?
That’s me alright. Often I entertain myself how long it takes to notice and what the reaction will be once someone finally notices I’ve been solo laning 10 minutes as Whitemane. Spoiler: it’s never about my exp contribution.
Throwing a little bit on purpose to have a more challenging/fun game. I did this too because i thought we would still be able to win later on.
A master player will probably not tryhard and play his best on a smurf acc.
It also depends on the communication that happened within the team. Toxic players can quickly change my mind and then i don’t really want to carry them to a victory.
I remember a time when trolling actually meant something other than people doing stuff you dislike.
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Where did I say I disagreed with someone? You guys are making serious assumptions…
Still is trolling… though I understand the reason (it’s still sucks for everyone else) but why do people constantly do it for… if your not happy with the game then don’t play it’s that simple.
Maybe it’s not happening in your region but is definitely happening in mind.
Ok, boomer.
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HoTS brings out the worst in people
Yeah, I had a feeling when the OP made their first post, that it was going to come down to inane standards of what they consider trolling.
Trolling I feel like generally has to have intent. Some people are just bad or ignorant at things. That doesn’t make them a troll. They’re just doing things selfishly or cluelessly, but they’re not trying to make your game awful.
People love to call me as a troll when I play hammer, but I’m not trying to lose. In fact, I win quite a lot with her, so just to assume that I’m acting in bad faith is just an assumption on their part.
I can name some people on the forums I don’t particularly like, but I wouldn’t call them trolls.
Ever see people point and laugh at others for making simple mistakes in life? Like tripping and falling or tipping over a glass of milk with your elbow.
People find enjoyment in others’ misery. They will make your life hell just so they can laugh at you when you react. This is how they enjoy HOTS. There are whole channels dedicated to trolling others.
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Well said. It is so idealistic to think most people act rationally and in the best interest of the “community”.
There are hundreds of millions of people alive who live just to laugh at others pain or misery. Germans even have a word dedicated to it, schadenfreude.
Believe or not, there exist people in this world who would pay $100 out of their own pocket just so that you don’t get $20. They do it to make you miserable. That’s better to them than any money, gold, fame or glory.
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I wish I knew what was so fun about playing joining ranked to try as hard as they can to lose games. I fail to understand what drives a person to be that crappy.
Another factor is the lack of punishments in this game, being reports are based on numbers and never reviewed then trolling isnt gonna get them punished in time. Even so they can just go make another account and start all over due to poor ranked requirements.
This is what I don’t understand and why I asked the question. Why do people have this mindset? I’ve played other online games and people are toxic but don’t troll anywhere near as much, they still want to win.
I don’t understand either, people have bad days and that’s alright. I try to own up when I am bad.
Yeah I think the requirement is bad and the punishment is worse but with an automated system there is a fine line so people don’t get picked on.
I think this maybe more of an ANZ issue. The HOTS community is smaller already but the ANZ community is much smaller in numbers again.
I would just hope that they move on to a more populated game and troll them.
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Ha. When I’m playing healer and I’m forced to solo lane…
‘Why is the healer solo?’
My response: ‘because you’re not…’
I have a go to answer to this: Blizzard. They’re community is notorious for it being mediocre to poor to unbearable. They foster this type of sense into their games. Us vs them. The only Blizz game I can think of that isn’t that is TLV for SNES. The us vs them thing comes from a place of hostility. Black Thorne doesn’t count. They let us govern each other. Nearly hands free. A small touch here and there with a large amount of psychology would’ve improved the community.
EDIT: I forgot to mention: FUN. They assume when players are presented with something that isn’t fun, but players are still play with it, means that it’s fun. No, we have no choice. Otherwise we would just turn off the game. I was only met with resistance when I said, “Hemet Nesingwary should be completely removed from the game.”
Even OW fails at this. The characters are so lovable and upbeat, even the bad guys, couldn’t save the pain.
Some examples come to mind:
WoW:
- experience points is divided amongst party members. So solo play is preferable to maximize leveling and loot. Friends? Who needs them when they are holding you back from those sweet sweet purps.
- Loot is not personal until D3 came out. So ninja looting was the norm. This was a huge issue and it ran rampant for years.
- You could have killed 2-4 mobs to reach a gathering node only for some butt face to just run in and take it. They can be the same level as you. They will even hit the same node while you’re trying to get it yourself. It was utter madness. This was at the beginning of WoW’s launch. Years later, they made this personal loot, where someone can’t just take your node.
- Loot made people crazy. Mostly because Blizz had a deal with the RNG gods and needed to implement it everywhere. You can go MONTHS spamming and farming the same dungeon every WEEK without seeing that piece of gear that was ninja’ed for gold.
- Mods and addons, were awesome when used to actually play the game. Then comes DPS meters, this is when hell turned it up to 11 on the toxicity scale. You were class shamed everytime you managed to find a group. With. out. fail. People actually flamed me and defended this, by saying it was useful. I called BS, since the game was not that hard to grasp in terms of dps rotations. It was an epeen meter and used to justify being an elitist a hole.
- If you’re an essential class like tank or healer, it didn’t matter, you mess up once, you’re kicked. They don’t care if they have to wait another 15-20 minutes for a new tank or healer.
- I was kicked before I loaded into the dungeon. I went through one loading screen only to be met with another loading screen where I’m back where I started with an added bonus of DESERTER. I put in a ticket to have it removed. Dude replied saying, sorry we can’t remove and sorry the community is such @#%^.
- I can’t remember any time where I asked a question and wasn’t met with 10 troll comments.
- The game rewarded elitists and those who had too much time on their hands.
- Dying in a dungeon meant the whole group would most likely die. If you died really early in the fight, and no battle res was present, you can go take a walk or sit their watching as the entire fight unfolds without you.
- The good vs evil thing was ever present. When Alliance and Horde actually teamed up against a common enemy, once it was dead, we go right back to hating each other again. This happens TWICE! Nothings changed or improved the situation between the factions. This automatically creates a divide amongst the players. Horde players are hardcore while Alliance players are pansies… Horde players are ugly and smell, and Alliance is super honorable and sexy.
- Yes, I have played WoW for a very long time, solo, I tried using chat to find groups as a healer, but this only imprisoned you in a major city, sooo fun. Once LFG finder came out, I played with people which didn’t help anything. I was at least able to finally see dungeon content and 30% of endgame.
Diablo:
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PVP is a #@%$ show. Probably the first instance of spawn camping for me. Get killed by a player way more powerful then me AND lose all my stuff. No thanks. You end up resenting players because they are ok with preying on you and Blizz lets all this happen. Hands free.
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RNG runs rampant in Blizz games. The force is strong in this one. A glorified casino. I also asked if what you do in D3 is fun. Resistance, in the form of fanboy nonsense. They were ok with the same content and grind the same loot over and over for just for slightly higher stats. For what? Leadersboards??? Yeah right.
CraftRTS’:
- All chat. I managed to win a game with Zerg. I’m really bad at the game. When I won, the opponent got salty, said something, and rage quit.
EDIT: I remember now. The opponent cheesed me by using fast flying Protoss units to kill off my workers by picking them up and shooting them in the air. I managed to save a few and create a secret base and stop the attack desperately. I then amassed my favorite unit. A flying pancake that shoots out baby pancakes that tear @#$% up just outside of range of all AA type structures and units. I kept pecking at him finding weakness in his defenses till he called me a cheese for doing my tactics.
The entire time, my hands were shaking and tingling from the stress. I was working at 200% with very little skills. No hotkey skills, all done with mouse. My APM is probably like 60. Or less, when I would stop to think… I was super proud that I did something as amazing as winning at a game I was complete crap in. I really tried to win.
Blizz was more focused in making a game “fun” and epic to themselves, but never really thinking about how the community will react to certain systems and mechanics. They are adults, who lived in a different time than their target audience.
People troll because they are allowed to and showing respect to others is not something that is reinforced in Blizz games. It’s not the attitude you expect.
I have been spoiled playing FFXIV. Best community I have ever seen. Best MMO too.
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